Update on: How admins really act in the official forum of Alessandra Ambrosio.

Hello, reader !

Thank you for taking your time and reading my blog.

So, since my first post here (April 27, 2008) until today (May 24, 2008) the described in the earlier posts situation is still actual.

For those who dont have time to read the very first post: Ive been a loyal ,active, friendly and respectful long time member in Alessandras forum (AAOF) and did not do ANYTHING that could have caused admins act the way they do that is banning me from posting in the forum for over weeks now, taking away from me my member 'permission' to post in the forum, to start new threads, to edit my signature settings, to leave comments in my own and others' profile(s). Admins abuse their 'privileges' and treat me ( and other members) rudely and disrespectfully which is not the way to manage the forum.

Yesterday I checked another forum where these two are admins as well - fashionmodeltalk (FMT) . (The link to my blog and post that had to do with the blog -was deleted weeks ago because admins always delete everything that can show 'this side' of them that they try to keep hidden from all - more on that plus proves and screencaps in previous posts so Im not gonna repeat it all over here again.) I tried to change my signature there to a new signature I created using Marisa pictures( Marisa Miller is my fave model, Alessandra is my second fave model) and it worked. I tried to post there and it worked too.

Now, in front of all of you who read this blog, lets make an experiement. Members -those who want- add link to their pages, like fan sites or blogs, whatever - in their signatures. In fact, admins themselves have such links in their signatures.In FMT such links are visible only for the members of the forum. Heres one of the admins signatures with a bunch of links, see the arrow:


Im gonna add my blog link into my signature as well. I have just did that and here is the screencapture with my signature and date and time:



NOW, lets see how long will my blog link last in there or better said, how fast admins will delete the link to my blog , proving once again that all I tell here in my blog is TRUE and they avoid letting members know about it by using one of their fave ways , that is just deleting it. Or are they going to take my 'permission to edit/change signature' in FMT as well - just like they did in Ales forum ? Lets all see. I will update as soon as I check back on it.

---> Update on the 'experiement' (or 'test' if you will) as of May,18,2008. I have just checked it as promised and the link to my blog is still there. Of course, admins must have bookmarked my blog now since they comment on it and read it and now 'try to prove me wrong' (with the signature test) but its too late because they already proved me right many times before.

And on the current state of things - I was informed by a friend that the owner of Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum contacted me there so I went ahead to check it. It was refreshing to see such a message and thank you very much for contacting me. I hope you will get my reply that I sent you and may be even check this blog.

There was also a message from one of the moderators. A while ago I contacted one of the moderators in AAOF and asked why 'my member permissions' were gone all of a sudden and if that mod can help. This is what I got as reply:



Honestly, I was a better opinion of that moderator but oh well, it only shows that not all moderators are capable to do their work either. But thank you for reply anyways. Not that it had sense or was helpful as youd think it should be coming from a moderator. Sad that even some mods have 'fear' to try to help someone and to think and act independently. And I dont care whether 'they are good persons' or not, because I dont know them in person - as well as they dont know me - ALL I know is that they are abusing their admins powers and bash members for nothing and this story is NOT THE ONLY ONE. And ALL explanations and proves and OTHER members' opinions on that , its all being mentioned here in my posts. Those who actually can think, will understand.

And even if I leave the AAOF and wont post there again, there will be other stories like that in the future, with other members. It lies in their characters I guess which wont and cant be changed. No matter what they do or say. If people mix their own issues and problems with the job they do and use it as a reason to 'punish' others to make themselves feel better, make conclusions.In no way I want to say how these admins really are as far as anything personal as ,say, their inner emotions or motivations are concerned , but they themselves show that they might just have problems with seeing how someone is more lovable ( I say it for instance, or more approachable or better in something) then they are and have difficulties with accepting it or/and learning from it. I also have friends who in some things are better then I am but hey thats cool, I respect them for that, they are good here, Im good there. Its life.And I dont start to 'pick on' someone just because he or she is better in some things then I am. But if someone thinks way too much of himself and comes off as mean and takes 'thank you' for granted....well, nothing we can do.In over a year of my being a member in two forums managed by them I hardly saw a simple 'thank you, guys' coming from them. Or a plain 'welcome'.Sorry for offtop though, but hey, thats why I have my blog where I can have my say. I dont expect anyone to fall on their knees in aw or anything. Those who read it, comment if they feel like. Those who dont care and dont wanna read it - I dont care too , I dont write here for you. So yeah, as long as they are admins nothing will change. They must be off forum since they cant do their job. Ideally, from both forums, AAOF and FMT. And even if they stay their reputation ( unfortuantely also Ales rep in some way) will suffer. Not that I had to do anything for that, they did it all themselves. And if we talk technically, I promote Marisa and Ale anyway I can, by posting best pictures of them, by supporting their forums, be telling people about them. And now I can not do that in these two forums. Technically it means the admins damage the interests of these models.

Whatever guys. I did all I could and if no measures are taken then do whatever you feel like.You can laugh now but good laughs the one who laughs last. End of offtop.


And on a side note, once again Id like to say thank you for all members from AAOF and in Bellazon (BZ) forum who contacted me and supported me or shared with me their experience with these admins or just commented on this. I appreciate it , guys. As much as I would like to call the names of who offered their help and support but Im afraid after I do so admins might just bash them too, nonetheless you know who you are ;) And believe me, I sincerely value your support and miss seeing you in the forum.

Best Regards,
xx.

Yet another update on the situation in Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum

Hi reader !

An update as of May 6th 2008:

In the previous post I explained as to why I didnt visit AAOF in a week or so. Ive been told by a member today that "members in AAOF would like to see me come back and post there again and apparently they posted that too in the forum and got the answer from admins ' All she has to do is to PM us to get her posting permissions back'."

Emm....Are you even serious? I must hear wrong. For what merry reason should I PM the admins who abuse their privileges and ASK THEM to pls give me my posting permissions( and not only since I dont have permission to edit my profile, signature either) back, permissons that THEY themsleves took away from me for NO REASON AT ALL and now I 'am supposed to beg them to give them back to me' ????????????????????? Pardon me ?

Think kindergarten. 'If we want to play, we will play, if we want to give a member his posting permissons, we kindly will give him, if we feel like banning a member for no reason we gonna ban him'. I dont play such games. And Im not a toy to be plaid any games like that either. UGH. Just to satisfy such 'admins' desire to show off their power this or that way and have final say.Ohhh puh-lease...

There is NO EVEN A SINGLE REASON for ME to even SEND them anything or ask them about anything - I did NOT start anything, its THEM, who started this whole absurd and disrespectful thing and its THEM who just should give me all my 'member permissions' back ASAP. ASAP. Without even daring to ask me to do anything. Just switch them on and thats all.

Of course, ideally, apologizing for all that absurd circus and inapropriate behaviour that they prove each time in their PMs to me, comments here and their actions not only towards me and my posts but towards other members who try to speak up as well.

Its 'amazing' how badly they need to satisfy their need to show how much power they have in the forum. Because they did all they could to get my personal reaction on their absurdness but they failed. This 'terrible person' didnt even PM them, didnt talk to them, just in her blog.No, we want to break her 'Im not gonna PM them as I dont even have to since in their PMs they show pretty darn good that such PMs dont even have to be asnwered to', we want to make her play our coward games too.Whatever, dudes.

If the apology I 'HEARD they made in the forum' was sincere they would have given me ALL my permissions back with that. Which is NOT the case for now.

And banning me from posting, editing my signature, adding comments in my profile BUT just leaving me PM to 'make me contact them and come say oh pls, give me my permissions back' - you can take the PM option too from me, if you want, because if you want for me to come to you on my knees for nothing youll have to wait a damn long time.

I think THIS alone says clear enough what kind of admins manage this forum.

Im not gonna visit/post there until ALL my permissions are back.

Oh yes and I talk only here in my blog. Without being stalked, getting orders whatI 'should do', treated rudely and disrepectful and so on. Just so you remember.

Regards,

xx.

ps. Just think yourself, people, if these two admins would have had a 'clear conscience' and would have been 'innocent' then they wouldnt have been avoiding public discussion of all that in forum. But they do as we see.Because it will put them in 'not so good light' in front of all members.So what they do? They 'copy my original thread and had to create a duscussion of 'forum issues'thread' BUT ban me from posting there. Ok, so I take it, they gonna discuss it with themselves eh?...Its like okay, here we are giving you a chance to speak but wait, we shut up your mouth first. Ummm...what gives? 'Very clever. Very logical. Very intelligent'.

I think 'this case' is almost hopeless and these two admins are COMPLETELY unable to do admins job. Thats all.

ps1. I had an ex-member of AAOF contact me today in other forum where that member shared the same 'experience' he had with these exact admins too and was banned for no reason by them, was treated rudely and disrespectfully and how it all was 'pooof', deleted by admins and 'they were pure and innocent again' for all who 'doesnt know' the real state of things. So here is an extract from that message and more on what other members said to me after reading my blog - names not shown to keep the privacy:

Update on the situation in Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum

Hi guys and girls.

First off, thanks for reading. The more people know the better. Tell everyone about that and may be then it can be changed for smth good.

Heres an update on the described in the previous post situation.

I was off forums for a week or so and didnt check on whats been going on there. Firstly,because Im a real person with real life too that must be taken care of and second I just needed a breath of fresh air after having to deal with such ***.

Today I logged in Ales forum to update my avatar and signature to Marisa's pictures to continue posting and promoting my fave model because I know how much she appreciates that and she told me that through her representative which is very kind of her and I dont want her to think I dont care about my MM thread in Ales forum or about Marisas official forum. I do. But as long as there are such admins Im not able to support her there.

So, in over a week now, I still :

1. Dont have persmission to post (!), change my signature(!), add comments in my own and others profiles (!).

Here are the fresh screencaps I took in Ales forum after I tried to post there and to change my signature, with time and date:






2. A bunch of members sent me PMs during that time I was off forum and some already read this blog, some were asking me to come back, some were just sharing their 'negative experience with the named admins'.

I hope you can forgive me for sharing your messages with all here, guys and girls, in good purposes, I wont tell the names of course to keep your privacy, and I know you support me and hopefully you dont mind me to quote a couple of your messages again.



So, in a nutshell: admins 'cut me off from posting, changing my signature, starting new threads, commenting on my own profile and others' for no reason abusing their admins power and acting very immature to put it mildly BUT left me only the possibility to use PM in Ales forum - to 'make me talk to them via PM' there.

Im sorry but Im not gonna talk to them via PM at all no matter what else they ban me from doing in the forums ( AAOF, FMT). I will only talk in public like this in my blog. After someone put a knife into your back - do you want to talk to anyone after that at all????????? Honestly, I dont and its understandable.

As far as Im ' not permited to post' in the forum - for what purpose did admins' create a 'discuss forum issues' thread now ????????????? What gives ? Are they gonna talk to themselves there since I can not post there? Doesnt sound logic does it. Each time they contradict themselves and I dont even have to answer because no matter how they 'try to come off as nice and caring now' and post stuffs but by their actions and in their posts they show themselves their 'real face' and what kind of persons /admins they are.

Isnt it 'funny' how 'with my help' so to speak the 'thread for forum issues discussion' was created in AAOF and how I still 'dont have posting permissions'?

And tell me pls, what does ' an apology' worth if after 'apologizing '( see comments) you still ban me from posting and not only ???

Either way, Alessandra and Marisa will be informed very shortly about all that. With all the printed out proves of course including time and dates.

Im sorry, MARISA and Ale, that I am not longer able to support you like I did, but I hope you understand why and once the right measures have been taken and I am able to use ALL of my member permissions again I will gladly come back to the forums for you. But for now, thats how it is.

Regards,
xx.

ps. I want to thank admin ( PinkCouture,RoninGrave and others) in Bellazon and (Sergio) in Ryoni forum for letting me have my blog link in my signature and not deleting it as some others do. And I wanted to say thank you to admin in AdrianaFlima boards(bahianchic). Good to see that there exist other admins who can actually act mature, fair and respectful. I wish you guys were admins in AAOF and FMT as well.

ps1. And this is only AAOF. Im not even checking FMT these days since they are admins there as well, who knows, may be I 'dont have permissons' to post/change siggi/etc. there too now...

ps2. And hey, thanks for all COMMENTS to my previous post.