Hi, yeah Im being very 'productive' as of late lol :P
I was just backing up the blog and thats why had to go quickly through all posts I made so far and thought would be good to make some conclusions from all that stuff described below...
~ For people who are interested on update with AAOF ( Ale Ambrosio official forum) described in my first posts here.
Well, as I already said , yes technically I can post there but I dont post as much and actively as I used to ( more on that as I said in my first posts)- it just NOT the same anymore- obviously. Not only for me, for all. Yes, still same admins, 'elected' by members a new moderator who promised to 'make it better and as it was before' ( but it still isnt ! lol)...admins dont post as much as they used to either. Props and kudos for them for trying to 'make things better' this way or another, but it seems like 'someone even higher' had a 'nice talk' with them- ether way, they dont post much on forums they manage. Quiet, quiet, quiet. Old members and almost all those who used to be a cool friendly active member company dont post as much either, if at all. As I said, me included. I just dont feel like it, its dead. Sorry, Alessandra, but even my liking for you cant save it. I wish you all the best though. But forum is...just not as good as it was and thats a fact confirmd by many members.
~ For those interested on update with BZ. ( maaan I have quite a list here already lol...oh well)
Yes, Im apparently 'banned for ever' ( for NO reason at all ) lol - more on that in my earlier posts, all whys and how it turned like that. Yes, even 'banned from guest viewing' as well lol ( woohoo, fear me, fear me, Im aweful ! gosh, this is truly sad and ugly from the side of bz.), but as I said I have a way to still now and then check it.
'Miss Pinks' aka PC is still as fakey-super-dooper-nice as it can get ( of course!) and all is same and rotten in 'her queensland' there.
Naive people are still naive ( or just d***) and eat all they are served there and I truly wish them to not wake up and see the reality.
---> I dont feel like posting on AAOF and Im sorry but I dont feel like posting even on my all time fave model's official forum- fashionmodeltalk ( sorry Marisa, but IF you have a chance to read at least a bit, youll learn why and I know youll understand and agree.) ( please say 'thank you' for that to PC, the goal is reached.). Certainly Im supporting all my faves just in one place - which is nice and friendly, my own forum, I understand more and more that me and other guys n girls made a great decision when we created it. No more shabby admins, no more unfair moderation, no more banning just so...it feels just soooo AWESOME ! Truly a relief.
~ Yeah well and tFS...Ill post on it later....But I can say, that if Im gone from there, Im afraid MM thread and BM thread in particular will be back to being dead again.
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Let me see, Ive been to quite a bunch of forums (big ones) and must say that:
1. The only treasure that all the forums have is those few intelligent, caring, active, so-called 'quality' members. Those members who not only spend much of their personal time posting but post and contribute great stuffs to the forum and keep a good atmosphere too. Who are 'loyal' to the forum.
2. Follows from the above, too often Forum management (staff, admins, mods...) forgets that its not them (or just them) but members are the ones who keep the forum active and lively and add to its pictures, videos and etc. And treat members poorly sometimes for no reason. As an admin myself ( I guess Im like a mammoth - there are hardly such ones these days for whom 'being impartial, fair, respectful and professional' is not just words.)I know and understand how it sometimes annoys if members dont read rules ,etc. but then theres a reason to give a warning or a reminder and not just so !
3. Almost noone cares much. Sadly.Why do I ? I mentioned that too already. First, I value my personal time and of course if I invest so much of my time for contributing good stuffs to a forum, naturally that I do care, its my time and efforts after all too.And then, what can I say, Im into models and fashion for a loooong time now and whether I want it or not , there will be such 'shabby cases' in forums , noone is protected against it. The only way not to go through it as I did is not to post on ANY forum at all but I cant, I need my models fix ( therefore I created my own little but nice forum !!!). And most members dont care about stuff I describe here until it comes to their home. Only if it happenes to a member himself, until then yeah, there are hardly any who care much - sadly, sadly ! And you know, they say 'informed - means protected'.
4. Not all admins/mods can handle the 'given to them privileges' to be able to edit posts, ban, delete posts, etc. Its very tempting to use it just to....(show that member that I am the one with the power; punish that girl who is prettier then me; you name it !) and not because there is really anything 'against the rules'.
5. Follows from the above again, members, please, remember, that Forum Rules in many forums are NOT made for ALL. No. They are not for all. If youre lucky ( that is, not cuter/more clever/popular/etc.etc.etc. then admin or a mod) then youll be the one who may not follow the rules. cause you are 'good girl' or a 'good boy' and its okay if you dont follow the rules.Well, and if you get unlucky....you may be banned just so, your posts may be deleted just so and the rules are made juuuuust for you. Not for other member and of course, not for staff. ( again, this is not the case in my forum, ask my mods, I even tell them straight too if I see they do smth 'against rules', inspite of any friendship or likeness. I hope there are still a few more then just my forum where rules are really made for ALL).
6. Of course models have a busy busy life...but imagine if our fave models knew what we have to go through to support them !!!!...Or, what kind of 'forum staff' manages their forums...
And a story. A friend of mine (after I told him about my blog and all that) told me today, that one member in a forum where he is also a member ( it has nothing to do with models or fashion tho), so that member recently joined and started to post and contribute much and very passionately ( hehe, I said then that ooooh bro I can understand her lol) and the other day she started a thread and as a title she wrote with huge huge letters 'THANK YOU'. Everyone was puzzled there...Huh? And when they read it, it turned out simple...She said, she just wanted to say 'thank you' , that thanks God, she was just so happy to have found that forum because she was on others and all of them seem to have immature staff, unfair mods, members, bashing each other and what not - its way too often to see so thats why she wanted to say an extra 'thanks' for being able to just to post and actually enjoy it as well.
I hope she will stay happy there. Its really refreshing to find such a forum, I agree.
Since I dont make any promo for my forum even tho I mention it I dont give the link here in my posts, but attentive people will find it :)
Oh and if you are like me, happened to 'be treated like that for no reason' ( you post good stuff, invest time and heart into it, then pooooofff, youre banned for no reason and you cant even delete your posts; its like you came as a guest to some people and brought some yummy food and they just pushed you behind the door and shut it in front of your puzzled face.) and you still want to post and ENJOY the forum, I dare say then, that youre welcome to join mine.
Anywhoo...I gotta go! See you around or not, just stay human. This is so important. Stay kind, nice and respectful, as you see, theres much sh** and shabbiness already in the world, that is, some forums...so lets not add to it, let them ban us, delete our posts if they feel like doing that even tho its unfair, karma is a boomerang , it will get back at everyone.
xx.
Why cant a forum moderation be fair and impartial and why cant we all leave in peace and happiness and mutual respect ?? Ahhhh those eternal questions....I still believe it can be done if people really want to. But not all want.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Some Barbara Meier 'Bellazon fans' act sooo immature and shabby its not even funny.
Hello, hello !
Told ya, my intution never fails to serve me right, I knew id better check BZ for some 'new hilarious stuff' so i did so and of course, there was smth lol, unbelievable.
Warning : if you have no slightest idea what GNTM or Barbara Meier is, please spare yourself from reading this post :) Cause I dont want to explain too much and make it therefore too long, sorry. I can just say that Barbare Meier ( from now BM) is a second winner of Germany Next Top Model 2007.
I was a member of a german GNTM forum for a while and followed the show ( since I speak a few languages it was easy for me to do). And she was my fave and of course I was happy she won. So Right after she won I started a thread about BM on BZ forum ( where I already was a member and posted a lot)- it was in May 2007 I think... Since it was the very beginning, I was almost the only one who 'passionately' ( as you know me already lol) posted lile crazy to make BMs thread nice and active and support a model I like. With time or better said step by step other GNTM german forum members 'moved onto ' BZ ( since I posted stuffs that were not posted in GNTM forum) and became members there as well. With time the atmosphere there became bad. In what sense? In that sense that that 'newcomers' groupie from GNTM forum sticked to each other and totally ignores me as a member there and always thanked each other only for new stuffs and so on - sure who cares, you will say, reader, it happens. Yeah, it happens. May be Im the only one like that but the atmosphere , a nice one, not fake-nice, is important too. I dont demand that everyone immediately becomes friends there lol, of course not. But a little respect and being nice goes a long way. So anyways, it became so bad that I contacted a admin there ( not PC , but another one thanks god!) and told him about that and asked him to help me and close the thread I started and let all those 'fans' start their own thread then so they 'build it 'themselves and not on what I myself already created there. So I removed posts I could remove and he re-took the thread under his name, closed it and cleaned it and opened again with a warning ' to be nice to each other and keep a good atmosphere'. ( yeah prolly thats the only one admin there who was human). But he still left MY writing under 'Barbara Meier ' that shes gntm winner and a heart - thats the way I posted it originally. And ever since BM thread on BZ was 'taken over and ruled' by those fans. This is - so you know the roots.
Also, another thing. At the same time I started BZ thread on BM, I also started a model profile on her at fashionmodeldirectory (fmd) - created it, filled in size, nationality, etc, etc, etc. plus some pictures. But I didnt follow much how it went then, altho I know that one of BZ fans of hers 'is taking care of it as well' and he posted her fmd link on that german forum and everyone was ooohhh, thank you for creating it. LOL Right, I do smth and he gets all the thanks, whatever.
Finally, recently during BFashionWeek (31.Jan.-1.Feb.2009) a member of tFS (thefashionspot forum) posted a couple of small pix of BM and said she walked for SP. The turquoise dress came immediately familiar to me cause I know Ive seen a pic like that last year when she walked for SP. But oh well...you hope people who post there know their thing lol...So I went to SP homepage and on the homepage were runway pix and there was that turquoise dress pic too and another one of BM. So I capped those and posted on tFS.
Now, yesterday I checked BZ and BM thread there, I saw a 'true BM fan' there ranting :
LOL. How hilarious is that ! And what an honor, Im 'talked about there' , in a 'saint place'...Cause theres no doubt 'she' meant me as 'that member who says hes a fan of BM'. LOL
Honey-darling, let me tell ya,
- I NEVER said on tFS Im BM fan as you claim ( pls do find the post I 'said it' there, pls do). And second,
- tsk tsk tsk...as a 'TRUE BM fan' you should have known that its last years pic ASAP !!!! And not speculating and chewing on it for a long while as you did lol....shame on you ! Cause apparently youre a 'TRUE fan' so its unforgivable ! Since Im 'not a true fan' its okay for me to be human and mistaken thanks God.
And also, my sweetest, I 'love' how you jump into ummm... not so clever conclusions without even knowing first WHY that or this member posted THIS or that pic, may be HE or she thought smth too but didnt say it loud.
Ahhh well, what we can expect from a 'true fan' named 'Plain Jaine'...True, true, theres nothing but 'plain' there instead of any hint of common sense. What a great member name choice ! Well picked. Very fitting, honey, hands down.
So, you know what ( all that 'BZ fans gang' there - one is a 'incredibly handsome but dull' he/she/it member ( cause he/she/it is hiding his/her/it sex shhh!!! but everyone assumes its a HE lol) + an unhealthy passionatel fan ( you know, its understandable when someone is passionate as a fan about a model of same sex...but um, pardon me, THAT passion is sooooo much more lol, her posts sound soooo 'BM is mine and you all f*** off' kind...lol)+ that 'PJ' member from the above 'bz post' picture lol) , you all are more then WELCOME to get an invite for TFS and 'support BM thread there yourself' since you 'know it all so well'. Cause guess what, Im NOT gonna update her thread there at all.
Heck, I did so much, probably the only one who even cared to update and keep BM thread there on tFS and I stood up for BM when she was constantly 'attacked there' by 'haters' (where were these 'true fans' when BM was 'called bad names' on TFS, did 'these true fans' ever supported me or said a word in her defence on BZ as well ?? NO, they DIDNT) and I contributed as much as I could ( my scans were reposted on bz too btw lol and he/she/it even posted them at FMD - altho I did NOT allowed so since those are my scans from a mag I bought I deserve to say where I want them posted and where not.But nah, I wasnt asked.)
Instead of at least being THANKFUL that there IS a person on tFS who always updates BM thread there they just talk b****t and gossip about that member. Well that pretty much shows it all, what persons are all these 'true fans'.
Oh and btw some of them even joined my own forum too but of course NOONE ever botheres to post there at least one 'thank you' , not telling about any contribution. I did and do it all myself, alone pretty much. So you can leave my forum, I dont need you there since you dont do anything anyway. Ill take care of BM thread ( its not that I let my liking for her suffer from such 'fans of hers') but only in MY forum.
You would probably say, readers, hmmm...dont get, why if you ALL like the same model, why cant you all support her alltogether ? Right! Thats what I asked myself too but since there are more then one involved, you better ask 'those fans' as well as to why they dont do so and only can mob other BM fans and count 'their' BZ thread as 'best source for BM information' LOL...
Oh of course they are 'nice' to each other on BZ ever since that case described in the beginning, and they are 'nice' to a few 'new people' who recently joined them, but this is that dry fake 'niceness' , you know ? Its when someone tells you ' mmm youre so welcome sweeeetiiieee' and you just can feel how fake it is.
And most surely BM herself wouldnt like if she finds out how some of her 'true fans' act towards another fans of hers.
Thats all for now !
xx
ps. Those turquoise dress pictures and a couple more I got off SP website were actually never posted on tFS, regardless that walked for SP last year, so technically they are new and therefore I left them on tFS. But nah...'those BZ fans' never even think THAT much, all they can is jump at people and talk bad about them. They didnt even 'see' this. All they see is that 'someone is making a bad taste joke at poor them' LOL Good gracious, this is called 'medicine is helpless' in such cases for you, guys. I feel pity for you.
Told ya, my intution never fails to serve me right, I knew id better check BZ for some 'new hilarious stuff' so i did so and of course, there was smth lol, unbelievable.
Warning : if you have no slightest idea what GNTM or Barbara Meier is, please spare yourself from reading this post :) Cause I dont want to explain too much and make it therefore too long, sorry. I can just say that Barbare Meier ( from now BM) is a second winner of Germany Next Top Model 2007.
I was a member of a german GNTM forum for a while and followed the show ( since I speak a few languages it was easy for me to do). And she was my fave and of course I was happy she won. So Right after she won I started a thread about BM on BZ forum ( where I already was a member and posted a lot)- it was in May 2007 I think... Since it was the very beginning, I was almost the only one who 'passionately' ( as you know me already lol) posted lile crazy to make BMs thread nice and active and support a model I like. With time or better said step by step other GNTM german forum members 'moved onto ' BZ ( since I posted stuffs that were not posted in GNTM forum) and became members there as well. With time the atmosphere there became bad. In what sense? In that sense that that 'newcomers' groupie from GNTM forum sticked to each other and totally ignores me as a member there and always thanked each other only for new stuffs and so on - sure who cares, you will say, reader, it happens. Yeah, it happens. May be Im the only one like that but the atmosphere , a nice one, not fake-nice, is important too. I dont demand that everyone immediately becomes friends there lol, of course not. But a little respect and being nice goes a long way. So anyways, it became so bad that I contacted a admin there ( not PC , but another one thanks god!) and told him about that and asked him to help me and close the thread I started and let all those 'fans' start their own thread then so they 'build it 'themselves and not on what I myself already created there. So I removed posts I could remove and he re-took the thread under his name, closed it and cleaned it and opened again with a warning ' to be nice to each other and keep a good atmosphere'. ( yeah prolly thats the only one admin there who was human). But he still left MY writing under 'Barbara Meier ' that shes gntm winner and a heart - thats the way I posted it originally. And ever since BM thread on BZ was 'taken over and ruled' by those fans. This is - so you know the roots.
Also, another thing. At the same time I started BZ thread on BM, I also started a model profile on her at fashionmodeldirectory (fmd) - created it, filled in size, nationality, etc, etc, etc. plus some pictures. But I didnt follow much how it went then, altho I know that one of BZ fans of hers 'is taking care of it as well' and he posted her fmd link on that german forum and everyone was ooohhh, thank you for creating it. LOL Right, I do smth and he gets all the thanks, whatever.
Finally, recently during BFashionWeek (31.Jan.-1.Feb.2009) a member of tFS (thefashionspot forum) posted a couple of small pix of BM and said she walked for SP. The turquoise dress came immediately familiar to me cause I know Ive seen a pic like that last year when she walked for SP. But oh well...you hope people who post there know their thing lol...So I went to SP homepage and on the homepage were runway pix and there was that turquoise dress pic too and another one of BM. So I capped those and posted on tFS.
Now, yesterday I checked BZ and BM thread there, I saw a 'true BM fan' there ranting :
LOL. How hilarious is that ! And what an honor, Im 'talked about there' , in a 'saint place'...Cause theres no doubt 'she' meant me as 'that member who says hes a fan of BM'. LOL
Honey-darling, let me tell ya,
- I NEVER said on tFS Im BM fan as you claim ( pls do find the post I 'said it' there, pls do). And second,
- tsk tsk tsk...as a 'TRUE BM fan' you should have known that its last years pic ASAP !!!! And not speculating and chewing on it for a long while as you did lol....shame on you ! Cause apparently youre a 'TRUE fan' so its unforgivable ! Since Im 'not a true fan' its okay for me to be human and mistaken thanks God.
And also, my sweetest, I 'love' how you jump into ummm... not so clever conclusions without even knowing first WHY that or this member posted THIS or that pic, may be HE or she thought smth too but didnt say it loud.
Ahhh well, what we can expect from a 'true fan' named 'Plain Jaine'...True, true, theres nothing but 'plain' there instead of any hint of common sense. What a great member name choice ! Well picked. Very fitting, honey, hands down.
So, you know what ( all that 'BZ fans gang' there - one is a 'incredibly handsome but dull' he/she/it member ( cause he/she/it is hiding his/her/it sex shhh!!! but everyone assumes its a HE lol) + an unhealthy passionatel fan ( you know, its understandable when someone is passionate as a fan about a model of same sex...but um, pardon me, THAT passion is sooooo much more lol, her posts sound soooo 'BM is mine and you all f*** off' kind...lol)+ that 'PJ' member from the above 'bz post' picture lol) , you all are more then WELCOME to get an invite for TFS and 'support BM thread there yourself' since you 'know it all so well'. Cause guess what, Im NOT gonna update her thread there at all.
Heck, I did so much, probably the only one who even cared to update and keep BM thread there on tFS and I stood up for BM when she was constantly 'attacked there' by 'haters' (where were these 'true fans' when BM was 'called bad names' on TFS, did 'these true fans' ever supported me or said a word in her defence on BZ as well ?? NO, they DIDNT) and I contributed as much as I could ( my scans were reposted on bz too btw lol and he/she/it even posted them at FMD - altho I did NOT allowed so since those are my scans from a mag I bought I deserve to say where I want them posted and where not.But nah, I wasnt asked.)
Instead of at least being THANKFUL that there IS a person on tFS who always updates BM thread there they just talk b****t and gossip about that member. Well that pretty much shows it all, what persons are all these 'true fans'.
Oh and btw some of them even joined my own forum too but of course NOONE ever botheres to post there at least one 'thank you' , not telling about any contribution. I did and do it all myself, alone pretty much. So you can leave my forum, I dont need you there since you dont do anything anyway. Ill take care of BM thread ( its not that I let my liking for her suffer from such 'fans of hers') but only in MY forum.
You would probably say, readers, hmmm...dont get, why if you ALL like the same model, why cant you all support her alltogether ? Right! Thats what I asked myself too but since there are more then one involved, you better ask 'those fans' as well as to why they dont do so and only can mob other BM fans and count 'their' BZ thread as 'best source for BM information' LOL...
Oh of course they are 'nice' to each other on BZ ever since that case described in the beginning, and they are 'nice' to a few 'new people' who recently joined them, but this is that dry fake 'niceness' , you know ? Its when someone tells you ' mmm youre so welcome sweeeetiiieee' and you just can feel how fake it is.
And most surely BM herself wouldnt like if she finds out how some of her 'true fans' act towards another fans of hers.
Thats all for now !
xx
ps. Those turquoise dress pictures and a couple more I got off SP website were actually never posted on tFS, regardless that walked for SP last year, so technically they are new and therefore I left them on tFS. But nah...'those BZ fans' never even think THAT much, all they can is jump at people and talk bad about them. They didnt even 'see' this. All they see is that 'someone is making a bad taste joke at poor them' LOL Good gracious, this is called 'medicine is helpless' in such cases for you, guys. I feel pity for you.
Sunday, February 1, 2009
'Meeeh...she's 'commercial'' and 'mmmm Soooo High Fashion OMG!'
Howdy again :)
So Ive been wanting to write a few words on that for a long time now and thought heck why not today while Im at it lol ! So here ya go...
Again, people who are into fashion and models probably will get me better but I dont set any limits, its for all thinking people with common sense :)
Ask anyone from tFS forum and they will tell you, yes its like that : 'high fashion (HF)' models are waaay more popular and loved there then so-called 'commercial'. Same about fashion and not-so-fashion companies and its ads.
Every member who thinks to know it all about 'real fashion' by ALL means at least once made a remark there : meh, she is that kind, you know, 'commercial' eeek...According such members commercial are ...actually some of my all time fave models ( Marisa Miller, Alessandra Ambrosio, partly now also Doutzen Kroes...) So no wonder ( although a total pity and a shame !) that for instance 'Marisa Miller' thread is not 'so super dooper popular' there then, say, of a 'oh so HF model Lily Donaldson'. Almost noone except for me ( obviously why i do that since Marisa is my number one always and forever, shes just ...!!! :))) and randomly a couple of 'my friends' who post there, almost noone else does. Okay, even 'my friends' may post to kind of support 'my model' since I do 'support ' theirs so thanks for that too lol. But aint it sad how it is with that commercial- HF dividing there...Maaaan....this is truly sad....
... And just so hypocritical !
Take Gisele Bundchen. Emotions apart, she did and is doing tons of commercial stuffs, but none calls her 'meee so commercial its not even funny' kinda model. Same goes for Hilary Rhoda, for instance who I immensely like and adore but she scored a cool deal with Estee Lauder ( come on EL is NOT HF okay...lol) and does catalogues nowdays too and models lingerie for ERES. But noone calls her 'meeeeh shes sooooooo commercial'. As if 'commercial' a something abusive nowadays !!!! Come on !
But 'poor' Doutzen Kroes ! As soon as she became a VS Angel, there was such a panic and absurdness in her tFS thread, some so-called 'fans of her' were whining and critisizing her and VS the 'harshest' words because of that lol... Of course, they want their models to be 'mmmm Sooo HF OMG' and earn just little money here and little money there but being 'OOOOOH so HF!' and make their 'fans' happy lol. Cause everyone in the fashion world knows that big money come with big campaigns, exactly - working with or for 'commercial' companies.
Lets see how one of the tFS moderators described commercial and HF :
Hmm, if we follow this logic, then ...Marisa Miller is ' OMG HF ' !!!! No kidding, people. Because Marisa was (and is) in many editorials ( she was in 'VOGUE' US too if it plays such a great role for ya !) and she did her fair share of the runway work too ! Yes, nowadays, she is 'mostly' known for her works with VS Angel and as SISE covergirl ( but its more then that) , so to be more exact she is ...BOTH : 'commercial' and 'high fashion'. Whether you like or not lol.
But nah...most tFS members dont even bother to think that over, they just curse ' oh gosh, shes commercial' and blindly adore their 'HF idols'.
Oh and dont even ask me what most tFS (I dont say all, there are surely a few members like me who see the WHOLE situation and are not fashion hypocrits lol but many many are...whaddaya want, its tFS after all ! ) say about famous 'Victorias Secret'. Ooooh, bro, theres a lot. LOL Starting with calling the company a 'piece of sh***' ( no, its not moderated there, you can say as harsh as you please lol) and 'only for celebs/commercial/crap/etc'. LOL Ahh boy, at least I totally get a kick out of such 'clever' posts.
I capped some 'clever sayings' of one of the members on that, I just had to, sorry, its too funny lol...my comments are in pink color :
(VS fashion show thread is started a month before the show and- what a surprise!- even 'true HF followers' check it oh so often and even post there lol hmm...and I thought its 'nothing but crap' lol)
So yeah, hypocrisy and idiotism is flowering on tFS in face of some members like the above one.
God, his posts dont even make any sense sometimes ! And this is not funny now. But luckily, as I always say, your posts speak about you louder then about the subject in your posts.
And as for VS, yes it HAS to do with fashion - IMO. Of course its not 'Prada' or 'Christian Lacroix', but :
~ they ONLY use MODELS to model their lingerie and clothing, swimwear, shoes, etc. ( alone for that I have a huge respect for VS, I am so sick of seeing celebrities stealing real models' work nowadays...)
~ VS invents new kinds of fabrics, new kinds of bras, there are new technologies and new lingerie design if you will
~ VS follows fashion (Ooooh so HF lol) trends in lingerie and clothing as well as shoes and all too and tries to create smth new themselves according the latest trends in fashion
~ And its undeniable that for ANY model ( HF or not) being casted for VSFS (vs fashion show) is HUGE and plays a BIG role for the models career and to deny that is simply plain dumb.
And just for those who dont know, to put it simple lol: 'commercial' models also said to be those pretty or beautiful models with healthy slim but curvy bodies who are making a nice sum of money and 'high fashion' models are those ugly (pardon me for this word), stick-thin, many with 'scary' faces models who are earning not so much money.
And before I make a full stop at that, isnt it sad that on such a huge fashion forum as tFS the majority of members has NO freakin idea that Fashion is NOT just 'ohhh so HF models and ooohh, verrsaaaccceee OMG! Vogue !' but all the 'commercial crap' - as they say- too ! Fashion is soooo much more then just a Gucci bag or a scary/plain/boring face of a HF model.
And with that, thanks for being with me and have a great week !
xx.
So Ive been wanting to write a few words on that for a long time now and thought heck why not today while Im at it lol ! So here ya go...
Again, people who are into fashion and models probably will get me better but I dont set any limits, its for all thinking people with common sense :)
Ask anyone from tFS forum and they will tell you, yes its like that : 'high fashion (HF)' models are waaay more popular and loved there then so-called 'commercial'. Same about fashion and not-so-fashion companies and its ads.
Every member who thinks to know it all about 'real fashion' by ALL means at least once made a remark there : meh, she is that kind, you know, 'commercial' eeek...According such members commercial are ...actually some of my all time fave models ( Marisa Miller, Alessandra Ambrosio, partly now also Doutzen Kroes...) So no wonder ( although a total pity and a shame !) that for instance 'Marisa Miller' thread is not 'so super dooper popular' there then, say, of a 'oh so HF model Lily Donaldson'. Almost noone except for me ( obviously why i do that since Marisa is my number one always and forever, shes just ...!!! :))) and randomly a couple of 'my friends' who post there, almost noone else does. Okay, even 'my friends' may post to kind of support 'my model' since I do 'support ' theirs so thanks for that too lol. But aint it sad how it is with that commercial- HF dividing there...Maaaan....this is truly sad....
... And just so hypocritical !
Take Gisele Bundchen. Emotions apart, she did and is doing tons of commercial stuffs, but none calls her 'meee so commercial its not even funny' kinda model. Same goes for Hilary Rhoda, for instance who I immensely like and adore but she scored a cool deal with Estee Lauder ( come on EL is NOT HF okay...lol) and does catalogues nowdays too and models lingerie for ERES. But noone calls her 'meeeeh shes sooooooo commercial'. As if 'commercial' a something abusive nowadays !!!! Come on !
But 'poor' Doutzen Kroes ! As soon as she became a VS Angel, there was such a panic and absurdness in her tFS thread, some so-called 'fans of her' were whining and critisizing her and VS the 'harshest' words because of that lol... Of course, they want their models to be 'mmmm Sooo HF OMG' and earn just little money here and little money there but being 'OOOOOH so HF!' and make their 'fans' happy lol. Cause everyone in the fashion world knows that big money come with big campaigns, exactly - working with or for 'commercial' companies.
Lets see how one of the tFS moderators described commercial and HF :
Hmm, if we follow this logic, then ...Marisa Miller is ' OMG HF ' !!!! No kidding, people. Because Marisa was (and is) in many editorials ( she was in 'VOGUE' US too if it plays such a great role for ya !) and she did her fair share of the runway work too ! Yes, nowadays, she is 'mostly' known for her works with VS Angel and as SISE covergirl ( but its more then that) , so to be more exact she is ...BOTH : 'commercial' and 'high fashion'. Whether you like or not lol.
But nah...most tFS members dont even bother to think that over, they just curse ' oh gosh, shes commercial' and blindly adore their 'HF idols'.
Oh and dont even ask me what most tFS (I dont say all, there are surely a few members like me who see the WHOLE situation and are not fashion hypocrits lol but many many are...whaddaya want, its tFS after all ! ) say about famous 'Victorias Secret'. Ooooh, bro, theres a lot. LOL Starting with calling the company a 'piece of sh***' ( no, its not moderated there, you can say as harsh as you please lol) and 'only for celebs/commercial/crap/etc'. LOL Ahh boy, at least I totally get a kick out of such 'clever' posts.
I capped some 'clever sayings' of one of the members on that, I just had to, sorry, its too funny lol...my comments are in pink color :
(VS fashion show thread is started a month before the show and- what a surprise!- even 'true HF followers' check it oh so often and even post there lol hmm...and I thought its 'nothing but crap' lol)
So yeah, hypocrisy and idiotism is flowering on tFS in face of some members like the above one.
God, his posts dont even make any sense sometimes ! And this is not funny now. But luckily, as I always say, your posts speak about you louder then about the subject in your posts.
And as for VS, yes it HAS to do with fashion - IMO. Of course its not 'Prada' or 'Christian Lacroix', but :
~ they ONLY use MODELS to model their lingerie and clothing, swimwear, shoes, etc. ( alone for that I have a huge respect for VS, I am so sick of seeing celebrities stealing real models' work nowadays...)
~ VS invents new kinds of fabrics, new kinds of bras, there are new technologies and new lingerie design if you will
~ VS follows fashion (Ooooh so HF lol) trends in lingerie and clothing as well as shoes and all too and tries to create smth new themselves according the latest trends in fashion
~ And its undeniable that for ANY model ( HF or not) being casted for VSFS (vs fashion show) is HUGE and plays a BIG role for the models career and to deny that is simply plain dumb.
And just for those who dont know, to put it simple lol: 'commercial' models also said to be those pretty or beautiful models with healthy slim but curvy bodies who are making a nice sum of money and 'high fashion' models are those ugly (pardon me for this word), stick-thin, many with 'scary' faces models who are earning not so much money.
And before I make a full stop at that, isnt it sad that on such a huge fashion forum as tFS the majority of members has NO freakin idea that Fashion is NOT just 'ohhh so HF models and ooohh, verrsaaaccceee OMG! Vogue !' but all the 'commercial crap' - as they say- too ! Fashion is soooo much more then just a Gucci bag or a scary/plain/boring face of a HF model.
And with that, thanks for being with me and have a great week !
xx.
Unfair moderation or here we go (again) - on TFS !
Hi ya readers !
I know youre surprised to see an update or the next post so soon lol. Well, I post as soon as I have smth to say on the theme /as soon as smth happens that makes me post, and no I dont do it on purpose cause my inner peace is very important for me too, believe me, I also wish I just could live and that others let me live too. But oh well.
Im sure if youre into fashion and models, you probably heard or even check one of the 'biggest' and 'well-known' fashion forums - thefashionspot ( tFS). What? You never heard of it as of yet? Good for you lol.
Anyways, I just have to make this post because this is getting ridiculous as far as 'moderating work' there.
You know after a long time I was able to get an invitation ( because its an invite only forum, and yes theres a pay-for option too (youll get more attachment space and etc.) as well, oh, and there are ads there as well, sometimes even pretty annoying ones if you dont block them). So, ever since I joined it Ive been an active quality member who not only posted 'thanks' or 'oh!' but I posted tons of my own high quality scans, my own cool screencaps and many other finds , pictures, videos, links, information. And still getting many karma points ( a kind of 'thank you' from members, you get so-called 'karma points' you can see in your profile) for my 'work' there.
But you know, one drop in the sea and youre like, okay, may be it happenes, moving on, closing eyes on that....But when there are quite a bunch of those youre like: what ? *shrugs* Moreso, if this is like this : they send you reminders on , say, for example, not to do this thing BUT at the same time you see on the left and on the right so many members do it and...are not 'being moderated' at all, voila ! Therefore Id like to stop at that in more details cause it starts to get on my nervers ( and its not so easy, believe me , I DO try to stay calm and peaceful until the ned where its just way too much of a bullshit.) already.
***So today I posted in 'Hilary Rhoda' thread this : 'Thank you for those !' ( that is: pictures). This post of mine was deleted and I got a reminder:
I decided to write back and send just a few of many examples where members post even less then that and that is few times in a row and - surprise, surprise!- their posts are NOT being deleted:
These are just the first few examples I came across - there are literally TONS more but hmmm I wonder why oh why THEY are not beind deleted , oopss, that is 'moderated'. Weird huh ?
Oh and as for the 'powerposting'...I already got one reminder on 'powerposting' a long time ago and I wrote back and they were kind enough to reply (back then) :
(I quoted a few members' posts in MM thread and replied to each of them and all my replies were deleted and thats 'powerposting' - rrrright, and that 'powerposting' I see happen in other threads too, for example in 'Is.F.' thread but nah, nothing is deleted there, weird huh)
But can YOU, people, may be tell me, why if I post an OCCASIONAL (meaning, I dont post just 'thanks' like others do, I provide tons of content most of my time there) 'thank you for these' gets deleted whereas constant 'thank you' posted by Other members are NOT being deleted at all ???? Can YOU tell me may be ??? Cause Id REALLY like to know. Not for any purpose, but just curious why its being 'moderated' in such a 'I have two truths, one for me and one for other' kind of way eh ? So some are allowed to 'powerpost' and some not. How interesting !!! AND I, oh naive me, thought that RULES are made equally FOR ALL ! Geeez...
And guess what, this time after I wanted to send them those above links with just 'thanks' examples, whoopss...they turned this option off already lol...
*** Now, as I had my first forum about VS Angels (Victorias secret angels, thats right!) and since I saw members having direct clickable links in their signatures to their own forums too on tFS, I put mine into my signature as well but a day later I had to remove it because I got this message:
So I did so of course.
But as always, what do we see...surprise, surprise!- there are STILL members who actually have direct links to their forums too in the signatures ! How about these two for example:
Again, 'some' oviously for whatsoever reason are 'allowed' to do so and 'some' for whatsoever reason are 'not allowed' to do so ! What a double-standard policy ! Im disappointed in you, tFS.
I would understand if there WERE reasons but just so , this always makes me throw up.... The double-standard thing that is. Moreso, if its 'forum rules for ALL'. Oh come on, really for ALL ?? I can see now how its 'for all' there.
And yes, I even reported one member because each time I saw his name with his forum link, it was like a red fabrics in front of the bull eyes, really unpleasant, so I reported it and mentioned, isnt it against rules to have forum links in siggies ? OF COURSE, NOTHING was done and he still has it ! Voila.
Oh, so may be its like that... a link to a fashion and models forum that is about VS models is NOT allowed but if its about a 'high fashion' model or 'high fashion' photographer, then its allowed ? Although in my forum we discuss 'high fashion models' too...hmmmm ANYONE here can give me an answer? lol Cause I dont get it there. And if theres no answer...well, you know, it only shows that Im right since they dont care to explain such things at all and prefer to just 'moderate' this member instead of 'moderating' all others as well. *rolls eyes*
***And btw, I cant invite anymore. Each member of tFS has a right to invite others to the forum so I invited 3 people. One because she wanted to be there so bad, so I did it for her, altho I dont 'know her or anything' she seemed to be a good poster on a different forum. Another one I invited is a 'friend' of mine from a different forum too so I hoped he would support our fave models threads there ( sadly he didnt, I could have spared that invite...) and third time I invited another person who also asked for invite in order 'to support her all time fave model there' so I helped her with that ( but she posted once or twice and thats that). Anyways, not a too long time ago I mentioned ( with a help of someone, who also noticed that herself first in her profile) that I cant find the invite link in my profile, it was just -poooofff !- gone. Weird huh. I know lol. So, I asked on a support subforum on tFS what could possibly have lead to that and was given a reply :
Hm, lets see :
- I didnt get any 'warnings', I only got a few 'reminders' so far (which is not the same thing as I was said or as it says in rules)
- I didnt follow all my invited persons history on tFS so I have no idea, may be THEY did smth horrible lol that led to that, I dont know. Can only say that with 2 of them, Im sure 90% that they never did anything 'against the rules' since they hardly even posted at all ! But oh well, may be its the first one I invited...I didnt see her post for a long while too.
So, I decided to ask a moderator there - I think I at least deserve to know WHY they taken invite rights from me. It cant be 'just so' or ' just because' or...can it ? Looking at the way some moderators 'moderate'there....everything can happen lol. But aint is ABSURD if its true ? Oh well, Im still waiting for reply, for a few days now. So hopefully they will tell me why, straight black on white, Id REALLY love to know ! And Im very thankful to a moderator who agreed to research on that and give me reply (thank you for that).
And you know, its 'amazing' how its 'allowed' there for many members to say literally 'bullshit' and totally 'absurdness' about fashion ( okay, they cant prohibit if anyones willing to show their dumb*** lol I understand..but still) or when so many members can post such really harsh words and post very inflaming and negative comments about models and sometimes even members...Brrr...I even had to find out a way to put some of such members onto my 'ignore list' cause you know, I come there to contribute good stuffs and to enjoy my fave models and check fashion news and not to read absurdness of certain members (who 'think they know it all about fashion and models' but in reality...sooooo far from it oh geeez...).
With that Im gonna end this post ( I have more to say while Im at it but Ill do it in a different post) otherwise itll get too long so ill spare you of that lol.
Thanks for reading!
xx.
ps. And yes, on MY forum harsh words or bashing is not allowed. Yep, Id rather have a 'kindergarten' if you will but with a nice friendly atmosphere to post in ( doesnt mean I cant say NO, if I dont like this model, we discuss it all , BUT in a respectful manner, thats the difference. Our members are nice and can actually act mature in most cases.) And believe it or not but our Forum Rules are made FOR ALL, even for admins and moderators too and for EVERY/ANY other member. As they say, business first, friendship second :)And although I do have 'friends' or members I like it doesnt meant that if they do anything against rules they wont be warned, they will and they are.Cause being fair is not just a word for me.
I know youre surprised to see an update or the next post so soon lol. Well, I post as soon as I have smth to say on the theme /as soon as smth happens that makes me post, and no I dont do it on purpose cause my inner peace is very important for me too, believe me, I also wish I just could live and that others let me live too. But oh well.
Im sure if youre into fashion and models, you probably heard or even check one of the 'biggest' and 'well-known' fashion forums - thefashionspot ( tFS). What? You never heard of it as of yet? Good for you lol.
Anyways, I just have to make this post because this is getting ridiculous as far as 'moderating work' there.
You know after a long time I was able to get an invitation ( because its an invite only forum, and yes theres a pay-for option too (youll get more attachment space and etc.) as well, oh, and there are ads there as well, sometimes even pretty annoying ones if you dont block them). So, ever since I joined it Ive been an active quality member who not only posted 'thanks' or 'oh!' but I posted tons of my own high quality scans, my own cool screencaps and many other finds , pictures, videos, links, information. And still getting many karma points ( a kind of 'thank you' from members, you get so-called 'karma points' you can see in your profile) for my 'work' there.
But you know, one drop in the sea and youre like, okay, may be it happenes, moving on, closing eyes on that....But when there are quite a bunch of those youre like: what ? *shrugs* Moreso, if this is like this : they send you reminders on , say, for example, not to do this thing BUT at the same time you see on the left and on the right so many members do it and...are not 'being moderated' at all, voila ! Therefore Id like to stop at that in more details cause it starts to get on my nervers ( and its not so easy, believe me , I DO try to stay calm and peaceful until the ned where its just way too much of a bullshit.) already.
***So today I posted in 'Hilary Rhoda' thread this : 'Thank you for those !' ( that is: pictures). This post of mine was deleted and I got a reminder:
I decided to write back and send just a few of many examples where members post even less then that and that is few times in a row and - surprise, surprise!- their posts are NOT being deleted:
These are just the first few examples I came across - there are literally TONS more but hmmm I wonder why oh why THEY are not beind deleted , oopss, that is 'moderated'. Weird huh ?
Oh and as for the 'powerposting'...I already got one reminder on 'powerposting' a long time ago and I wrote back and they were kind enough to reply (back then) :
(I quoted a few members' posts in MM thread and replied to each of them and all my replies were deleted and thats 'powerposting' - rrrright, and that 'powerposting' I see happen in other threads too, for example in 'Is.F.' thread but nah, nothing is deleted there, weird huh)
But can YOU, people, may be tell me, why if I post an OCCASIONAL (meaning, I dont post just 'thanks' like others do, I provide tons of content most of my time there) 'thank you for these' gets deleted whereas constant 'thank you' posted by Other members are NOT being deleted at all ???? Can YOU tell me may be ??? Cause Id REALLY like to know. Not for any purpose, but just curious why its being 'moderated' in such a 'I have two truths, one for me and one for other' kind of way eh ? So some are allowed to 'powerpost' and some not. How interesting !!! AND I, oh naive me, thought that RULES are made equally FOR ALL ! Geeez...
And guess what, this time after I wanted to send them those above links with just 'thanks' examples, whoopss...they turned this option off already lol...
*** Now, as I had my first forum about VS Angels (Victorias secret angels, thats right!) and since I saw members having direct clickable links in their signatures to their own forums too on tFS, I put mine into my signature as well but a day later I had to remove it because I got this message:
So I did so of course.
But as always, what do we see...surprise, surprise!- there are STILL members who actually have direct links to their forums too in the signatures ! How about these two for example:
Again, 'some' oviously for whatsoever reason are 'allowed' to do so and 'some' for whatsoever reason are 'not allowed' to do so ! What a double-standard policy ! Im disappointed in you, tFS.
I would understand if there WERE reasons but just so , this always makes me throw up.... The double-standard thing that is. Moreso, if its 'forum rules for ALL'. Oh come on, really for ALL ?? I can see now how its 'for all' there.
And yes, I even reported one member because each time I saw his name with his forum link, it was like a red fabrics in front of the bull eyes, really unpleasant, so I reported it and mentioned, isnt it against rules to have forum links in siggies ? OF COURSE, NOTHING was done and he still has it ! Voila.
Oh, so may be its like that... a link to a fashion and models forum that is about VS models is NOT allowed but if its about a 'high fashion' model or 'high fashion' photographer, then its allowed ? Although in my forum we discuss 'high fashion models' too...hmmmm ANYONE here can give me an answer? lol Cause I dont get it there. And if theres no answer...well, you know, it only shows that Im right since they dont care to explain such things at all and prefer to just 'moderate' this member instead of 'moderating' all others as well. *rolls eyes*
***And btw, I cant invite anymore. Each member of tFS has a right to invite others to the forum so I invited 3 people. One because she wanted to be there so bad, so I did it for her, altho I dont 'know her or anything' she seemed to be a good poster on a different forum. Another one I invited is a 'friend' of mine from a different forum too so I hoped he would support our fave models threads there ( sadly he didnt, I could have spared that invite...) and third time I invited another person who also asked for invite in order 'to support her all time fave model there' so I helped her with that ( but she posted once or twice and thats that). Anyways, not a too long time ago I mentioned ( with a help of someone, who also noticed that herself first in her profile) that I cant find the invite link in my profile, it was just -poooofff !- gone. Weird huh. I know lol. So, I asked on a support subforum on tFS what could possibly have lead to that and was given a reply :
Hm, lets see :
- I didnt get any 'warnings', I only got a few 'reminders' so far (which is not the same thing as I was said or as it says in rules)
- I didnt follow all my invited persons history on tFS so I have no idea, may be THEY did smth horrible lol that led to that, I dont know. Can only say that with 2 of them, Im sure 90% that they never did anything 'against the rules' since they hardly even posted at all ! But oh well, may be its the first one I invited...I didnt see her post for a long while too.
So, I decided to ask a moderator there - I think I at least deserve to know WHY they taken invite rights from me. It cant be 'just so' or ' just because' or...can it ? Looking at the way some moderators 'moderate'there....everything can happen lol. But aint is ABSURD if its true ? Oh well, Im still waiting for reply, for a few days now. So hopefully they will tell me why, straight black on white, Id REALLY love to know ! And Im very thankful to a moderator who agreed to research on that and give me reply (thank you for that).
And you know, its 'amazing' how its 'allowed' there for many members to say literally 'bullshit' and totally 'absurdness' about fashion ( okay, they cant prohibit if anyones willing to show their dumb*** lol I understand..but still) or when so many members can post such really harsh words and post very inflaming and negative comments about models and sometimes even members...Brrr...I even had to find out a way to put some of such members onto my 'ignore list' cause you know, I come there to contribute good stuffs and to enjoy my fave models and check fashion news and not to read absurdness of certain members (who 'think they know it all about fashion and models' but in reality...sooooo far from it oh geeez...).
With that Im gonna end this post ( I have more to say while Im at it but Ill do it in a different post) otherwise itll get too long so ill spare you of that lol.
Thanks for reading!
xx.
ps. And yes, on MY forum harsh words or bashing is not allowed. Yep, Id rather have a 'kindergarten' if you will but with a nice friendly atmosphere to post in ( doesnt mean I cant say NO, if I dont like this model, we discuss it all , BUT in a respectful manner, thats the difference. Our members are nice and can actually act mature in most cases.) And believe it or not but our Forum Rules are made FOR ALL, even for admins and moderators too and for EVERY/ANY other member. As they say, business first, friendship second :)And although I do have 'friends' or members I like it doesnt meant that if they do anything against rules they wont be warned, they will and they are.Cause being fair is not just a word for me.
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