A few model/fashion forums' behind the scenes.

Update on 'Beware of the copycats' and non crediting.

2010-10-25T17:05:00.005+02:00

In addition to this blog post.

Just to add to the things that were copied from our forum and in particular my very own ideas for profile ( it does not come with such custom profile fields by default, it only has by default a few options for profile to fill out so I came up with a bunch of my owns to add so our members have more options and some of my ideas for that were also copied among many other things - see the above link).

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And to add to the HilaryRhodaFans who "never steal and always credit", here is the set I created long time ago and posted on our forum and here is one of the copycats forum 'staff members'/HilaryRhodaFans who took my signature and is happily using it without any credit to me or source (our forum) but 'crediting random fellow 'honest' Hilary Rhoda Fan' instead.

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What can I say ?...

That someone copies you, your ideas...it is bad enough.

But when someone is using created by you avatars and signatures and at the same time calls you the 'stealers' or 'non creditors' is just shabby.

You know if I could post a WHOLE list of such examples I experienced in my whole forum life...how many times I did forgive such cases, okay, well moved on, what can we do, saw unfair things and absolute liars, okay, closed eyes on that, saw no credit for my and other people's work, saw Doutzen Kroes banner (!) for her subforum that I created being stolen and used in some social net 'DK fan group' as their own , saw avatars that our forum members created being stolen and used without credit... If it was possible to demand money we would have been millionairs and may be could pay our forum's hosting for years ahead.

But what do such HRFans know ? They only can come by our forum and squeal 'Sources pls!!!!!' after they see you post something. You just wanna ask ; and where were you when your "fave" model had subforum, needed love and support ? What love and support ? Unfamiliar territoriy for some fans I see, they can only show up to hate and accuse and lie. Not to support or contribute anything quality. Not surprised. Or to ask, and where is my credit or source for the signature theyre using ? But yeah, thats the difference between this and that.

Sad if the bad will win and the good will die. Unfortunately 'the bad' is way spread out and loud then the 'good or fair'.

Its interesting to see though how people show their true colors in such situations and which way they chose.

Anyway, yeah. Not seeking for understaning or a lollipop but truth must be heard and yeah there are people for whom such things like being fair still have some kind of the meaning. I just hope that some sanity and healthy mind will survive. Scary to think what would happen if everyone starts to lie, be rude, hypocritical, shallow-minded, etc. Why is it so hard to appreciate smth good before it is lost ?
No idea.

Hmm...

2010-10-16T16:15:00.004+02:00

Who would have thought there is so much crap on some forums :( and how many haters/immature people around. But guess its just like in real life too. And actually you do learn to deal with it a lot via forums and all those net communities, right ? May be at least you get experience - hopefully noone will need it in real life lol, but if it happens you know how to cut it off.

It's just hard to stay aside when such unfair things happen and abusers don't get punished but good people and forums and models may 'suffer' so to speak. Sure Im not a judge, I just tell how it is sometimes, all the colors. Not just the lovely deceiving surface.

Anyway, no worries, I don't want 'this' to draw me in ( and it just takes a few min to post anyway). There are lots of better exciting things to do in life, much to see, much to do.

Let's hope life will be a teacher to those who should get a lesson or two.

Thefashionspot mods - "tough but FAIR " ? Best joke of the day.

2010-10-16T13:13:00.018+02:00

Lets get it right, I dont talk about ALL the fashion spot mods. I hope there are some that actually ARE respectful and even fair but there are surely many who are complete opposite to put it mildly. Sadly I learnt that after I already invested much time into contributing stuff there.

This is what they twitted a while ago as a reply to fordmodels:

How about you let all members say if you really are 'tough and fair' ? Because most surely there are enough of members who would say ' biased and unfair' ( see blog posts below for more details). :(

Tfs forum is 'doing so awesome' because it has tons and tons of members . Logically the more members you have the more of them may become really good or active ones and will contribute to the forum and keep it updated/blossoming.

Usually the most active members on tfs are :

* those 'high fashion' models hardcore fans who hate all things Victoria's secret or vs models
* newcomers, who heard 'the big tfs hype' and joined and now "overwhelmed" with "unhuman happiness" they try to post as much as possible

May be there are more categories, but these two are very 'in your face'.

However many of the 'older' members, quality members, do not bother posting on tfs anylonger.
And then there are some that just come to support their fave model and that's that.

Why newcomers are such passionate posters and why older quality members are not ? Well, may be because they also had to 'learn that other not-so-fair side of some tfs mods' among possible other reasons as well ( real life, etc.) ? I have quite a bunch of members telling me how they are 'fed up' with tfs biased moderation and that how they don't moderate model bashing ( usually it is sexy or 'commercial models' that are hated there), do not moderate in 'high fashion models' threads as they should (because hf models are mods darlings) and how they delete good posts and give random reasons for that instead of deleting hateful comments some members post.

Im quite used to that by now, alas. If not for my favorite model I wouldn't bother logging in there. But I know that there is hardly anyone who will update the thread if I stop. No, not because Im so irreplacable but because basically yes, it's just this way there. ( she is not an attention *** like some ueber popular 'hf' models)

Im quite used to seeing hateful comments unmoderated there even if you report them nothing happens, no mod cares.

Im quite used to getting random 'reminders' and having my good posts deleted/being picked on for now logical reason.

Im quite used to seeing the vs models hate spread there as opposed to 'supporting models'.

Im quite used to seeing there less and less of quality mature unbiased members and more and more of obsessed (and not in a good way) ridiculous 'hf models fans' that totally spoil the atosphere there and add unnecessary tension, hate and excuse me - dumbness.

Im quite used to photos from our forum being reposted on tfs without proper credit or under totally made up source for God knows what reason but when you ask a mod to correct that and have all the proof they do not care and leave it as it is, with incorrect false sources/credits - whereas the rules say you must give proper credit.

Im quite used to seeing offtopic and endless useless discussion and one-smilie posts in 'HF models' threads which noone cares to delete for 'being useless/insappropriate'/offtopic.

So the other day again there was that member who I am ready to bet 100% took new vs photos ( that are not on official site yet) either from our forum or bz. forum ( where our forums photos are reposted all the time so its still our first place where they get those first) but she posted as a source : vsallacess.com not our forum not bz. forum. Okay I thought, may be she really found them there, lets give her a chance, so I went on vsallacess and nope, sure as hell, there were no such photos there which I knew. But hey may be Im still wrong so I just quoted her post and asked her kindly to please show me the direct link to these images she posted because I can not find them on vsallaccess source she stated and thank you.

This is the post I talk about (hey, readers, go to vsallaccess.com guys - may be you will find those there ? lol see for yourself )

Now here come the 'FAIR' tfs mods. What do 'fair' mods do ?

They delete this post of mine and sent me this:

Say what ?

And that is considering that even another member quoted some of my post and actually also said that the source was wrong at least for one pic she was sure about was taken on bz. forum ( I told ya) :

I could have said better like, hey... betcha you took those from .... forum so whats the prob with non crediting again ???? is it really that hard ??? But no. I actually posted without promoting any forum or accusing her and still got it deleted , seriously ??

So my post to give me direct link to the photos was 'inappropriate' ? Oh sure. And how about TONS of members who ask on forums ' hey where do I get such photos / could you give me the link to more of these / where can I find this photo' ??

Oh, lets see. How about moderating all the hate and bashing and useless 'discussions' whether or not a certain 'HF darling' made it to Dior or not, made it or not, made it or not, made it or now, was she at chanel or not, no she was not, ohhh she was not, no she was not. Noooo she did not make it. Noooo she did not make it. No she was not at dior, no she did not show up at dior. This of course makes more sense according tfs mods and IS appropriate and not offtop at all. Not annoying either. Not at all. Its HF fans' valuable contributions to tfs forum.

Left and right there are tons of posts that should be moderated and hateful rude members that should be warned but nah... tfs mods are SOOO fair and therefore it is okay to hate and write negative stuff about models ( who actually check tfs forums eeek !) but to ask politely for a link to the pictures is of course very very inappropriate. Very much so. I see. Thanks for enlightening.

A tfs mod does not follow their own rules and does not add account name for youtube ? Duh, who cares ! But yes, certain members must do that otherwise they will get 'reminders'. Tsk tsk tsk

A tfs mod talks rude about a model ? Who cares, she is not a 'HF darling' anyway, so thats okay :

Kurkova's tfs thread is a big time mess and that member keeps on posting broken tags for months now, reposts too ?? Who cares to warn the member and ask her to learn to post correctly for once.

Offopic ? 'HF fans whining' ? Reposts ? 'Non informative posts' ? Who cares. Not the FAIR mods of course.

Contact a mod or team leader ? Um yes I did so. And a few times. And they clearly did not care.

Again, there are a very few mods I talked to and who did help me and I guess you could say they are unbiased and mature and professional and I appreciate that a lot of course and thank you for that but those are just a few, sadly.

Tfs - Huge Hype. Not so much real deal.

Ask tfs members how many of them got unnecessary 'reminders' or experienced that double standard side ? Go ask.

Addition to : HilaryRhodaFans - oh really ? (from Tuesday, October 12, 2010)

2010-10-16T12:18:00.019+02:00

You would think it can't get any worse with HilaryRhodaFans twitter fans but yes, it can.

One amaaaazing member who, of course, did not have to contribute anything to 'her fave model' for the whole year that she has been a lurking 'quiet' member of our forum and just watched how we created a subforum, found pictures, scanned editorials, etc. thought what the heck, and went straight to my profile and gave me - 1 reputation saying ( guess she read my blog post, good girl) :

How hypocritical is that ? Considering this coming from someone who steal my already tagged by me scans and tag them with their own tags, who stalk and bash models and spread lies and hates, act rude and immature ?

HilaryRhodaFans has nothing left to do but to use the available (yet) methods to take yet another rude step (and show their true colors again) instead of:

1. Actually admitting that they are wrong and did so much harm on purpose.
2. Look in the mirror and ask, why so many people think so bad of them and why are they are the ones who are 'not nice'
3. Realizing that downrating someone who says the truth only shows that it IS the truth that they can not tolerate or accept or even prove wrong with other mature respectful deeds.

And that is coming from member - as said- who did not even care for 'her fave hilz' and just watched me and other good members of our forum take time to update on her and take care of her thread and then subforum but who was the one to out of the blue finally post on our forum (after I showed them with screencaps that they are the ones who steal my avatars, not the opposite) - I quote her English and original post : "thanks for make me HATE this forum'.

I think, no comments needed, right ? Pretty obvious who is who. Who is 'nice' and who is a coward and immature person who only can downrate instead of gaining more fans for her 'fave model'/supporting 'her fave hilz'.

Well, one more thing. LEARN ENGLISH. Really. You should be thankful people don't laugh at you for your ridiculous English. Please no offend but for someone who is a LONG time forum member ( English speaking forum !) and whose fave model is American and who claims to be some 'chief manager' such English 'knowledge'/writing skills is just a shame. And that you STILL did not at least take time and learn it - heck, for the sake of your fave at least - just shows your level. Sure noone points out that yet and I did keep my mouth shut too understanding that okay, not all people can learn a language but I only speak about this case, not all people, but these exact 'people'. But how long should I tolerate their crap thrown like so and still be forgiving ? So there, I said it. Learn English, HilaryRhodaFans twitter fans. But why should they care on the other hand, right ? It only makes their picture sooo wonderfully complete with it.

'Be respectful and honest , "HelliCate", and noone will have to talk "bad" about you' *waves* and next time before you run to downrate anyone ask yourself a question why did that happen and may be you are the one who is not nice. Try to bring those grain cells in some movement, okay ?

Beware of the copycats ! Or, a 'project' turned stealing and copying.

2010-10-12T10:03:00.020+02:00

HilaryRhodaFans, belgoulartnews, BrooklynDFans, Team_Isabeli, anabeatrizfan, IrinaShaykFans, RefaeliOnline - these 'fan' twitters accounts holders recently were promoting ' woowow new exciting project coming OBM'.

Well, turns out, it ain't any 'exciting new project' you'd imagine ( for example, like a fan site for those models they have twitters for, with galleries, extras, etc. witty, new and fun) but --- > a blatant copy of our forum, a bit of bellazon forum and a bit of thefashionspot forum. Yikies !

Where do I start, where do I start, really. So much copied/stolen I dont even know where to begin.

* The title alone is a joke. Biased much ? "best models" ? Bar/Brooklyn ? Um hardly. In all honesty there are better models out there but whatever, I think it speaks for itself and fits 'the OBM copycat forum staff team'.

And yes, it rhymes so perfectly well with the original lvsmodels. Why strain their brains if they can just copy already existing good things on other forum ?

* OK, lets look at forum structure/layout.

1. Subforums - for our faves ( only on the original forum it is not just all our faves but - fitting the main theme, vs, we give forums for models who dont have them but do vs - they give it to all their faves - feel the difference !)

What do I see, they even straight out copied the title of original subforum -- I'd logically suppose for them going with their forums name/theme it would have been ' not best models' (ala crappy models??? worst models ?? lol) -- but nah, they totally took my idea and named theirs also 'More Models' Subforum - how obvious is that please again ??? And how about thinking of smth of YOUR own for a change ? Too much of a task I understand.

2. Subforum for all things VS they also have there just like we do - really ? Since when HilaryRhodaFans and that certain person are that much into VS ? *eyeroll* Just a few days ago I saw that certain person posting on forums ' hate vs !', ' VS, you suck ugh !' and now she creates a vs subforum with 'vs angels', 'vs events', etc. like we have ? Oh wait, her fave model got a Fantasy Bra right, she 'likes vs again' I guess. Naww. How cute again.

AND yes, they even sticked copied general VS thread as 'important' like we have too. Pathetic. No, wait, its not copied at all. Its just the same, really.

Well at least on our forum it IS our theme hence sticked/pinned important threads, geeez, how desperately can some people copy...

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3. Yes, every forum has usually a thread for the help, some news threads, etc. But each forum has it in a different way. So I also came up with my own layout for such subs and threads and their descriptions which the above named 'very merry company' also copied for their ' exciting new project'.

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4. It was 100% idea of our forum to pin as important a thread with information and a photo and official links of a model who has a subforum. Yes, it was also copied in ' new exciting project' .

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* Forum Rules and Gudelines - copied as well.

Admitted, I can be a*al about rules (but hey thats why our forum is organized and not a mess :P ;) ) and we have some paragraphs that other forums may not have. And yes, even those were copied too ! ' no one smilie posts', ' no spamming with thanks thanks thanks', ' dont PM staff members for the hell of it, first check FAQ' and the like. No kidding.

They also copied our forum's posting pictures rule with 600px in width if posting full size. Here is the twist : even their 'newborn admins' don't give a crap about it lol, just how lame is that ?

Pretty showcasing, no ?

* Their newborn ' staff members' repost my scans and caps but tag them additionally with their non existant HR fans site despite my tag --- see blog post below on more of that plus caps please.

Sadly, have to expect a LOT of reposts with no crediting for the original forum there.

* Certain member was banned on our forum for continuous non following forum rules/guidelines even after a bunch of friendly reminders and a few warnings and for model bashing.

Well, this certain member certainly made a career there ! lol

Now she is a *gasp* - 'newborn moderator' ahahaha... how ironic is that. We said no to the bashers - ' new exciting project' gave them home and title. Awwww ! helloooo vanessaxox !

And of course, those rude, obsessive stalkers - HR Fans are also 'newborn staff members' there - oh geee, what a perfect company by the looks of it ! Theres a reason why they say ' bad to the bad, good to the good'. Hopefully they found each other. Amen.

* They even stole ideas for new subforums from our forum members ! How shabby is that ?

Months ago we came up with the idea to add one or two more subforums for models who fit our subs criteria (vs, no official forums, etc.) , it was important to take time to think of good criteria and possible models so if we make subs they gonna stay for long and will be taken care of so I took time to think about that and all and then we asked our members what models do they think fit the criteria and they'd love to have a subforum for.

Most our members named Isabeli Fontana and Izabel Goulart. We decided to wait till VSFS 2010 to see if these models get to be in the show and may be will do VS again as they were vs inactive for a whille (vs is within our theme so gotta stick to it, again, just a note) so we decided to wait a bit:

Well as you can see, while we came up with this idea and waited , 'newborn exciting project super clever staff members' just went ahead and stole that idea from us and our members and yep, created subforums for them but only on their crappy pointless copycat forum of course (in the hopes of luring our good members into their crappy forum ? oh please) :

Well done. First listen to which models have most fans and then go steal it. SHAME on you, 'new project " best models" staff members' . Truly shame.

I mean, just how desperate can someone want to be 'admin/mod' and/or have subs for 'their fave AKA best models ' ??? Eeeeeek, scary !

So many people seems to think it is so easy-breezy-beautiful to be admin. Well, may be to 'be admin' is easy-breezy but to do admin work and have loads of stress and things to take care of in addition to posting is no easy job. I speak from personal experience. Not even everyone can notice what we do - theres much work behind the scenes too with maintaining forum, admin duties, promo, etc.

Okay, with HilaryRhodaFans and may be Team_Isabeli/HighMaintanence member it was actually to expect, something of this kind. We knew that member's nature long time ago so no big surprise she acts so.

But it IS truly disappointing to see someone who was our forum moderator, could see how we work and learn and who we trusted actually join/create this shabby company, copy us, take our ideas, forum stuffs, etc.

It IS disappointing to see another certain member from Brazil who we accepted friendly and treated fair and nice prefer the poor copy over the quality original.

You all made your choices.

Sad but even if any good people lower themselves onto the level of those rude stalkers HRFans an bashers then I am sorry, it does not speak well of you but it shows you are just the same. Hence the attraction/chemistry lol.

No worries ! You may steal and copy the original but KARMA will greet you soon. Because all this is unfair, rude and plain ugly towards us, our members and forum. Especially after noone of us ever treated you badly or unfair. Thanks for paying back in this ugly way.

Shows again, that regardless of how nice you really are in the end it doesnt play a role and you can get things stolen from you or called 'b*tch' anyway.

Guess, not all people understand that you can love and support your fave models on subforums OR in the threads - its not the outside, it is the quality and love that matters. Damn ! Even on our forum I don't have subs for ALL my faves, well, no biggie, doesn't mean I will like them less right ?

They may promote their poor copy on their 'fan' twitters and have members join but if it lacks quality from the very beginning, if the head is rotten, so will the body soon.

Spread the word ! Copycats and their pointless copycat forum will get what they deserve.

PS. No worries, lovelies ! We will think of better and new ideas for subforums. AND our good quality members will stay with us if they can see the difference between the original and the copy.

PS.1. You know I do feel pity for them. It already looks like a mess there and thats just the beginning. They don't follow the rules they copied from us, mods there -> are bashers and stalkers (enough said duh!!) , and alas, even their 'very own staff members' may be buddybuddy with the 'newborn admin' on their 'newborn copycat forum' but they are different on other forums where she can not see what they talk about 'her faves aka best models' lol :

Way to lose good people and stick to the ***. WHATEVER.

HilaryRhodaFans - oh really ?

2010-10-12T09:12:00.009+02:00

Hey !

So you know a bit of that case from the below posts by now.

There are these 3 or 4 forum members on thefashionspot in HR thread who are known as 'obsessive, rude, shabby, liars, hypocrites, full of hate' but who claim to be not such but 'Hilary Rhoda Fans'. How cute.

Remember, I posted that my patience with those can be worn out very soon ? So yes it is now. Why ?

The 'from the beginning until the end of patience' part or how it started : I began to notice how those guys lurk on our forum and repost photos and scans of Hilary that I make- on thefashionspot in her thread BUT without giving credit to our forum or me - just posting random made up sources ( Just how hard is it to credit smth good ? ugh). Also they liked to take photos I already posted , resize them larger and post on other forum saying they found them and 'HQ' -pathetic. Ok I was patient still, talked to them. They started to whine and complain how 'tfs mods hate on Hilary', how there are 'bad place there, many haters', how 'they bash hilz due to her SI work', etc. Okay, our staff created a subforum for Hilary - she also started to do VS at that time so it fit our theme and could be a nice place for her fans and updates, organized and a friendly atmosphere. But nah, it didnt stop them from reposting or sometimes neglecting her subforum. Okay, I still was patient, still nice, still friendly. Unfortunately at some certain time we had to make Hilary's subforum back to thread because of lack of VS work mostly (goes against our forum main subs division, she just had a few of them and that was it :( ) and of course the bahviour of those guys played a role too but not the main one for this exact decision.

Okay, so I came to the point of ' how the patience finally was gone without goodbye'.

That HilaryRhodaFans twitter - those guys - literally stalk Hilary on her official twitter - it is a FACT. Go see for yourself.

They command her around, demanding that she immediately goes and does some runway, editorial and one of those 'fans' even came to Paris during Paris Fashion Week recently - to 'meet Hilary' . *shocker*. I mean, sure why not IF you actually may be asked a model first if SHE wanted to meet you or had time or it fit her , etc. But you know those obsessed 'fans'. One of them just twitted to Hilary 'stay where you are now- im coming to see you' . If I was Hilary Id be scared lol. No, seriously. Thanks for Hilary 'they didnt meet'. There is karma , babes. Pheww ! But yeah, they do stalk and treat her awefully...

Once I came by HR thread on TFS and saw them fuming over the fact that Hilary 'prefered to watch TV instead of doing some runway' that day - " ugh how does she dare ! lol " And that kinda rubbed me and I stopped by and asked them to give her a break because they scare off members from posting in Hilary's tfs thread due to such an immature behaviour, may be Hilary wants to watch TV and not do the runway like THey want. And guess what they replied ? You will never guess, guys ! As a reply to that they accused me in 'stealing their finds' :

Avis I created and posted on my forum :

And they took my avi, added their 'HR fans text' and use happily (ever after) without asking me or crediting while I did ask to credit if using anywhere else:

How hypocritical is this please ?

Thats with the fact in mind that THEY steal our finds and dont give credit/resize/etc.
And thats with the fact in mind that they are using HR avatars that I personally took time to create. Ummm, so who stole what ? Incredible liars. They never admit their ugly behaviour or mistakes - they prefer to accuse others and spread the hate and stalk. Good, 'fans' for Hilary indeed. She honestly deserves better fans.Pity her name is being used by such shabby people.

Thats not the end of it though ! But it was a definite end and fat stop for my being nice and patient with them.

The continuation came soon. ( I will tell in the next post more)

They are a part of 'staff members' of a 'newly born forum' (which is a blatant copy of my forum) and guess what ? Well, yes, they have there 'HR subforum' ( but oooooooohhhh, they (!) are mods now there - oooohhh! Mods AND a sub for HR -mmmmm yeahhh oooohhh) and they repost my HR screencaps, scans, finds - all tagged with their non existant HR fan site. They also tagged scans that member of our forum made and posted long time ago - as well as scans of other member from another forum (bellazon) - all tagged by them regardless.

They dont even care that it IS already tagged by me - how rude is that ? :( :(

I do hope karma will hit them back. The sooner the better. So they learn a lesson or two and think about OTHER people and some respect for a change.

PS. Yeah there are many members on tfs who know about their behaviour and can't stand it either. And people come in sometimes and point that out ( not that it changes anything) - like here, when one of those fans literally stalked HR and posted to bump her thread and say where she was at that moment and someone replied:

How lame is their reply please ! Seriously, ANYONE can have a DIRECT contact with HR now that she has her official blog and twitter. Duh ! Hey, she replied to me on her blog too so what ? But I dont go around and throw it everywhere as' exclusive direct HR contact'. And nope, Im not fulla envy that they have it lol and not a "Hilz hater ". Geeez...

But hey, no surprise - they do have a bad reputation already so color me NOT surprised.

Some further 'fans' observations and a big question for you !

2010-07-18T21:26:00.008+02:00

3d blog post today eh ? :P Yep, when I start I cant stop, just kidding :) Thats the last post for today me thinks. But the BIG ONE is on the way, get ready ( I did hesitate to post it or not but truth is important for me and it has something to do with something I liked so much so...Ill post it how it is; heck I dont know why I do it - wait, may be turn to astrology and read stuff on 'scorpio' - 'into the midst of things' - its just something that I happen to have /can so yeah, there ya go :P Besides, I think this question was discussed in one of the posts below so wont repeat it).

You know what...Well, SOME fans actually do take right directions and with a little bit of sincere praise and much patience actually start to 'behave'. So thats a plus...But man, you still gotta close your eyes onto so much and just keep a cool head - regardless.

So the big question for you is : just what makes a true fan a true fan ? We speak about models of course. Thoughts ??
Are you any models fan ? Or you dislike being called 'fan' or you dont care ?

For me as for some other forums members I talk to someone is a true model X fans if :

* they promote their fave model sincerely and lovingly, not straight up into your face but by their deeds and good honest words, spreading the model X love ( via their nice personality, via their fan arts, via their rare picture finds, via their way of posting about a model, etc.)

* they stick up to their fave model X through thin and thick ( they dont let model bashers bash her, they stick up to her if it still happens even if everyone else is against her)

* they spend tooooooons of time to search for their fave model X photos ( not the twitter or facebook for example butr some rare, HQ, new photos all over the internet and beyond :) ) and post them as often as possible, making sure their fave model X's threads are up to date and taken a good care of and on more forums they do it the better

And last but not least...

You can call someone a model x fan if that someone is THE first person you think of when , for example, you came across some photos of model x and that someone is the first person you think of who will for sure ENJOY your finds.

Basically, if someone IS a model X fan IT SHOWS. You can feel it. Its just there.

Some models are lucky to get genuinly nice supportive fans, some models are not so lucky and get 'fans' who more hurt her reputation then helps her. Since a model x fan - whether that model wants or not - is kinda 'representative' of that model x.

Sure not all models know about their fans. And the word is also so overused nowadays...

For me he who hangs a model photo on his wall and calls it a day - whoops, and calls himself a FAN - is certainly not a true fan. A true fan does a LOT of work for his fave model. Usually for free. Just because he likes that model. Its someone thanks to whom you start to like that model too.

With facebooks, twitter and such anyone is getting called ' fan' but oh well, thats just how it is...Models will of course be nice and say smth nice to everyone, to a true fan, to someone who just joined their facebook and calls himself so or even to someone who actually doesnt deserve being called so/ that nice treatment.

Fan is not the one who has 'most post counts' in a model's thread. Its the quality and the way of posts, its the person itself that matters most and indicates a fan or non fan.

And at that Ill stop for now. Gotta go !

Yet another non crediting case...

2010-07-18T20:40:00.009+02:00

Meaning, people, just HOW HARD it is to give credit where credit is due please ??? Seriously. Is it really that hard ?

And lol at copying even the message in original post. *yawn* eyeroll*

Original post on forum 1 from 3 days ago:

And copied/pasted today by a different member of forum 2 on forum 2:

Some non creditors are even SO lazy that they dont care to save photos and upload onto another host, nah, they just come, steal, copy, paste. Credits ? What credits ? And thats 'totally fine' of course that people who originally posted those spent a few hours of their personal time, searching, getting those HQs. 'Totally fine. '

Shame on you is all I can say. Sadly there always will be such unclassy rude people :(
Nope, we probably cant change the world but at least I can let it out ugh lol.

PS.

And its absolutely NO wonder that that forum 2 has such a bad reputation among good thinking people. And yes, the FACT that many or most members there dont credit other forums/members is one of the reasons. Oh yeah it starts with the letter 'B' and ends with the letter 'N'. Type any models name in google and it will come up. Nope, no promo here, seen enough of peope joining it but not posting there much or not caring so whatevers. Its like this : how is the admin/mods team so is the forum and so are most members that are attracted to it. If the head of a fish is stinky and bad so will be the tail. The bad to the bad and the good to the good. Natural evolution :P

PPS.

Just another non crediting proof of B to N forum , this time a different member, same copy/paste thing, not even changing the image host codes, actually two more ( believe me there are tons more).

Originally posted on forum 1:

Reposted on forum 2 with no crediting of course:

And these:

Original, same forum 1:

Copy/Pasted, same forum 2:

Ebay people sell models pictures that are available for free on models forums ?

2010-07-18T20:30:00.005+02:00

LOL isnt it pathetic ? I wonder if anynone ever buys those ? Hilarious.

So they join some fashion/models forums, get all the photos there that members like myself take time to find on the big ol' internet ( spending our time, sometimes using photoshop to prettify a bit and to correct settings, in some cases forum members pay money to get such photos) and then they just cut off our tags and sell them on ebay ? Yikies.

Hellooooooooo, everyone who wants those models photos for FREE just should go find join a fashion/model forum and voila.

An example of the above case.
This particular picture of a model was posted on a forum :

And a while later I come across it on ebay - minus the tag of course ( alas ! feet had to be cut off too sadly...) Ugh.

Any comments on that ?

Hey !

2010-06-14T13:07:00.003+02:00

Its been a while huh ? Well there is sure something to tell ya so I probably will be doing that very soon as promised. I was not sure to post on *that* or not ... All that 'yaddayadda crappy people are not worth your time', ' dont take it to heart', ' too much honor for them to be mentioned ' and the likes stuff its all correct but I do that for myself first and foremost. Yes I want to speak out loud on that theme and so I do. And if it helps to 'open the eyes' or 'see beyond the surface' for some , all the better.

Why even to believe me and 'not them' ? Good question. I dont know. Because I am me and have nothing to hide or nothing to lie about, I dont gain anything by telling all here (other then I speak up since thats what Im here for) and I do try to operate with facts, not just emotions. Being on big fashion/model forums for some years does leave some impressions and you build up some experience too and can see it *all* from the 'insider' point of view. Plus, there are enough of people who agree with what I say and come to my too to share their similar 'experience' with the named below people and there are enough of forum insiders too who see deeper then just a fake niceness of someone, who dont like model bashers but they do not have the courage to speak up or dont want to or dont know how and where.

Those who not only have brain cells but know how to use them will surely make a right choice and right conclusions.

Well, stay tuned then !

xx

Updates will come soon , people !

2009-12-08T15:27:00.001+01:00

Hey all,

busy busy busy - Christmas is just around the corner so all "forum stuff" comes last of course. But there is smth to say on theme which I hope Ill be able to do soon.

Until then !

To add to the previous post.

2009-10-16T23:31:00.011+02:00

Oh yes and I knew that my post (see the previous blog entry below) would be deleted - just as my post where I talked politely and positively how great my fave model is get deleted there as well. I also got a 'tfs squad mod reminder to be respectful' again LOL. How absurd is that ! And I actually was as polite and nice as possible even though I could have said it MUCH harsher as those bashers deserve long time ago. Too bad I didnt, cause it gets deleted anyways.

Well, there you go, readers, it only adds to show what shabby mods are there on TFS. NO class, NO 'model love' whatsoever.

The quality of a forum -small or big- surely depends a lot on the quality of the staff members, admins and mods. TFS is nothing but a perfect place to bash models - which is really ironic if you read the title for models subforum there:

Shame on you, tfs mods, you better change the subforums title because obviously it contradicts your actions/moderation or absence of moderation !

If you delete quality posts and let all haters post their absurdness then excuse me you shouldnt even have started a 'model/fashion forum' at all if youre so biased and unfair as far as moderation goes ! Ugh. And I am not the only one who is literally fed up with your 'moderation ' and 'tfs mod squad reminders', I got replies from members there who agreed with what I post here and support me. Some of them gave up on tfs and almost never post, some just close their eyes on that and continue checking it and others dont care until it hits them too. As one of your long time TFS members said ( not gonna say the names though to give that member away) , 'being a mod must have gotten into the head of many tfs mods sadly'. I dont know about that but I know what is being posted here about. And that alone is more then enough to say you definitely dont help to have a 'good image' for your TFS forum AT ALL.

No worries, MANY people will know the truth about TFS. Im telling all my friends how shabby TFS mods are and what huge hypocrites they are. All 'HF' models threads are being spammed with offtop and what not but VS/commercial models 'get picked on' or even are 'hated' there. As well as all members who dare stick for their favorite 'non HF' models. SHAME ON YOU TFS MODS. Shame.

I only wish it would have happened earlier so that I wouldnt have spent my time posting my scans, photos, etc. on TFS. You are NOT worth good members it at all. Continue being biased unfair and shabby mods and youll end your days happily surrounded by your 'HF darlings' and haters/bashers/absurdness/crap which seems the perfect way there anyway.

Nothingless is nothing less but...

2009-10-16T21:39:00.007+02:00

...You see for yourself, here is screencapture from a forum where I 'dared' say that I like M. and what I got for that from some 'clever AL fans' :

Oh yes, and those are 'fans' who come and shove 'AL is the best , the bestest, the hottest, the ....etc' down everyones' throat at every chance they get on any forum they can, any way they can come up with - as the last truth and 100% fact ! Talk about hypocrites and double-standard !

And darling Nothingless, youre really nothingless then .... *** and obviously all members on all forums post their personal opinions - if YOU didnt know that by now after your years of forum experience. Unless stated differently of course. More so, my exact post wasnt aimed on you so there was no need to attack like that, showing your true colors which are faaaar from being 'as good as you try to make them appear'.

Oh and please next time try to see the difference between ' one of the best' and 'the best' and 'worlds best', thanks. And say thanks to me that unlike AL fans I at least was nice enough to say 'one of the best' and not ' THE ONE THE ONLY AND THE BESTEST EVER'. As you say about your 'fave models' in your 'HUMBLE' opinions.

Regards.

The Fashion Spot moderators delete clever posts where fans support their models in mature way but leave dumb hateful comments of bashers !

2009-10-03T14:45:00.014+02:00

Yes that is how they 'moderate' there or 'care for a good atmosphere' or ' show model love' !

The more people know about this, the better, so please send my blog link to EVERYONE, readers ! Thanks much.

So the story so far. After all the posted here below and (again! I really should learn from that, and yes I did now that I finally have my own forum where being fair, respectful are not just words) after I contributed a whole lot of good stuff there these years, got tons of good karma points from members... I just cared to come to TFS ONLY to support my most fave model ever because 'VS angels' are 'unpopular on tfs' to put it mildly. Anyway, Ive been updating, doing my deed peacefully and lovingly, when a 'basher' came by ( not that its new of course) and thought this model's fans 'are dying to hear the bullshit she has to say'. And posted stuff like.. I dont even wanna repeat it. You can check it here -click me!. And on the previous page there as well. So okay, I thought, its best to ignore that since theres no even tiny bit of sense to say anything to SUCH stuff. But nah, one basher came by and that attracted another one ( how convinient eh ? They attack like stinky birds, alltogether, never alone) and jumped on the wagon as well. Um what for ? That *clever KK fan * never stopped by that thread before and never cared to say her/his 'I hate this model you like' but of course, here is the chance, as long as others bash Ill join and add to it. 'How clever' lol. Really, I got nothing on KK as a model, but this is already her second so-called ' fan' that just loves to bash my fave model by any chance. Really, what gives ???? Gotta say such fans like 'Nefertiti' and whats his name.. 'Prescot' really make me DISLIKE KK a lot. A LOT. They seem to enjoy to post rude comments about other models especially my fave one. What has she done to them ? No idea. This is realy ugly from such fans to say the least.

So yeah. I really was patient but I thought allright, of course when my feelings are touched because this model I like surely doesnt deserve being bashed at all , noone does, so I thought Ill post but only ONCE and for all and gonna ignore such 'bashers' then and just post nice stuff for my favorite model again. How can anyone say anything bad before they even get to know a model or a person ?...And damn, I mean, I dislike some models too but I dont go bash them any chance I get and call it 'criticism' and 'if you cant take it then you suck', jessuss...Anyway, so I did post.

On the next day I got a 'TFS mod squad' PM notifying me that :

So I go to check what post they deleted and sure thing, they deleted nothing but my post where I tried to stick up for my favorite model and post something mature compared to bashers' posts as well as actually do 'mods' job to keep a good atmosphere in the thread'. And yes, they deleted THIS POST of mine ! INSTEAD of deleting hateful, silly, DUMB comments of those who just come to the thread to say smth negative about a model knowing that it is NOT welcome, well DUH, logically its not welcomed, isnt it ? When anyone comes to KK thread there , for example, and says crap like they do they literally jump at such members which I did not in this case.

So they deleted all I posted to say how real and nice my fave model is and how she is great for VS and what Ed Razek told about her when she became a VS angel AND they left 'she is fake, orange, many people hate her' posts ?????????????????????????????????????????????? *WAY TO GO*, TFS. Yuckies.

Have a look, guys ! This is the post they deleted (post number1646) , good thing this time I got to screencap it ! Phew!

Check it out, what was deleted and PLEASE tell me where is it 'personal issues to discuss via PM or profile comments' ???? And 'silly me', huh, I thought it actually directly concerns a model in topic.

Alternatively you can of course go check it on the forum as well, and compare what they left unmoderated - aka all the 'truly valuable comments' and 'mature opinions'.

You know what, go the HELL with your silly 'tfs mod squad reminders' , you TFS mods! YOU need 'rules reminders' and all the 'valueable bashers' on your forum and not members who actually can contribute something good both to photos and atmosphere ! YUCK. YOU need 'rules reminders' because YOU dont moderate your own forum, YOU dont moderate when rules are not followed ( sites not being spelled out, when members post fake/wrong sources and so on !) No wonder real models DONT LIKE TFS, sure because all such 'harsh dumb' comments are NOT moderated there. But all the GOOD stuff is deleted. WAY TO GO.

Never gonna contribute a single little thing there anymore. Sorry, my lovely tfs members-'buddies', you know its not because I dont want to post something nice for models you like but THIS is the reason why I wont do it anymore. I hope you understand.

Even FMD forums are better even though they do blatantly bash too but at least they are not hypocrites as TFS mods.

Is there any models-bashing-free forum where good members are valued and there EVERYONE is respected and rules are for all ? YES, lol, I just HAD to create such after all this 'experiences'. We may not have as many members as TFS or messy BZ or even 'spammed with *credit beijos!!!*' AAOF but I love the quality that we have. I know I always say that but after having all that 'mudd' it really is refreshing to come to a different better place. If you are fed up with such moderation methods as TFS has or other forums or with model bashing and being treated as..., come to us.

Just wondering how shabby some moderators can be...how 'picky' they moderate....how unfair and ugly...ugh.. It truly is a way to see a person when you give these privileges...some are plain not made for this and some just take it to the head it seems...Ill end on a positive note though despite of anything, all that happens is for the best. Pearls are being separated from mudd...Plus, I also saw good mods and good forums and finally.... YES, my favorite models rock. Noone even comes close and all the haters... can go on a hike or smth ( copyright B....k) lol LIVE AND LET LIVE. But thats it, they dont let, for some reason they feel the need to come and spoil the atmosphere or show their ignorance... prolly they dont know that it speaks more about them and not about models they 'hate'.

PS. And yes I re-posted Ed Razek's comment again.

TFS mods allow users to treat their members and models disrespectfully but warn and delete posts of good members!

2009-10-03T14:17:00.010+02:00

No wonder, most models prefer to stay AWAY from that forum ( also known as 'the fashion spot' or TFS).

Hey all, hello !

I am with all you guys and girls who thinks 'TFS got all the hype but their moderation methods suck big time' - I know there are many of you who agree.

Recently a member (*Miranda*) quoted my post that was intended for another TFS member and posted this : ' Don't be stupid! It's like Ale fan club here on TFS in this Ale thread, we want all pictures!'. Then another member came by and posted : ' huh? A bit more respect please.'

Well guess what, this rude post of *Miranda* was deleted as well as the second one of another member.

'Cool' huh ? Especially its nice to compare these 'moderation methods'.

Lets go back to this post of mine in VSFS thread where I said after I read a few rude posts there ' Its a bashers paradise here' - the post of mine was 'edited' and the reason stated ' show some respect to members'. Oh and I got 'an eternal warning for being disrespectful' because of that post too.

Now, a member directly being rude to me /that is a member and what do they do ? No, they dont 'edit it and put "be respectful to other members" reason', they just got rid of it, just deleted it ( as if *Miranda* never was rude or posted anything rude!).

How do YOU call this ? Hypocrisy much ? You bet.

Too bad I didnt cap it as well and they were quick to delete it.

As an addition to the previous post...or are Forum rules on some forums really for ALL ? lol

2009-08-27T22:26:00.001+02:00

* tfs forum rules (see below post where I quoted them !) say do not promote your board/site/forum and give me a warning for 'doing so' and yet just the other day I see there such a post with literally calling all to join some forum and noone cares to moderate it lol:

* again, those rules say members must spell out the credit/source links and yet when I posted and asked some people spell out my site because they reposted stuff from there but shortened the letters I got a reminder not to 'promote my forum' lol and YET we see people not crediting my forum again and shortening /not spelling out / not following their rules and ..nothing is done, its left the way it is:

And these are just a couple more examples like that, there are more.

Hmm... 'double-standard' "forum rules" much ? lol

That's what happens when you don't lick ... and stand for truth and fairness.

2009-08-13T13:49:00.012+02:00

From wiki:
Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, opinions, virtues, feelings, qualities, or standards that one does not actually have. Hypocrisy is thus a kind of lie. Hypocrisy may come from a desire to hide from others actual motives or feelings.

Hi again,

many people ( TFS members, other forums members that I talk to) will agree with me on the following: TFS as such may be a good place ( huuuge members list therefore many post actively, the more members the more chance more of them gonna be active posters, some people work in fashion industry...umm and thats that!) but as far as FAIR moderation goes it leaves MUCH to be desired.

I dont know even where to start, I collected a big bag of words to say from my own experience, from what other people have to add or say on that...

* Remember the post about Hilary Rhoda fans (see below) ? Well, after that 'case' lets say, they again reposted a picture from my forum on TFS but instead of giving full forums/site title they took the first letters ( like you have a site called 'myfunnysite' and instead of spelling it you see people credit 'mfs'.) - okay, so I posted again and asked nicely to please spell the full name when crediting /posting a source on TFS. HEY, this what TFS RULES tell us members to do !

And yet they do nothing when members dont follow their rules:

* When there are people calling VS a piece of *** and calling models *ugly*, *fug*, *porno actress* and the like bashing going on there - this is apparently IS allowed on TFS because I see it left and right happening and nothing is moderated or done about it, yay freedom of bashing much?

Just from the recent examples: someone called my fave model a bad name and then another model was mixed in and I had to say a word on that, stick up for them. Heres I even got karma lol (good points) from a fan of that second model when I posted that 'bashing is really uncalled for and tells more about the bashers then about models'.

Its in a foreign language, those who know it can confirm, it says ' exactly, this with ... was also unnecassary, if youre a VS model doesnt mean youre a whore'.

~ Another example, after new VS launch vid was posted in one of the threads, in came those whose 'fave models' were not there and bashing has started :' they all look ugly ' (because....(name your fave models) wasnt there otherwise she would have looked best - LMAO) and similar posts like that ( its in VS etc etc etc thread if you wanna check it yourself as a guest there). So I said, hoorrray welcome abroad bashers, as VS time comes nearer we gonna see more and more of such 'clever posts' in VS thread there. Ugh. And for all mature people I just posted my 2 cents on that video.

There are many examples like above, you can just check it and read yourself, Im sure you will come across stuff like that there - you know TFS is open for guest viewing and I dont have any reason to make it up and waste my time with making up. Its all true.

As true is the following. That moderators there dont give a *** about all those FORUM RULES they themselves created lol.

-Off topic is flowering there but nothing is being done about that - whereas other posts that are not offtopic are being deleted or moderated.
- People dont give PROPER credits ( see my below posts) and when I post and ask them pls DO credit properly because I know it for a fact you took it from here and here (without posting any promo links) - this is deleted and members 'are punished'. *rolls eyes*
- People dont spell full credit source but its being ignored by mods even tho its against rules.
- Members call models ugly, whores, porno stars, you name it and its not being moderated whereas when you say ' you are such bashers here' you are 'punished because you call people names' - *rolls eyes*

And back to my post below on Hilary Fans... I sent private message a FEW TIMES to a mod there to ask politely for the help and tell HH to credit my site properly because she takes pix from there but puts a different random credit and not my site, that is plain lie about source. Plus, if you read the below post (I wont repeat much) even the BLIND ONE will see proves - alone by identical codes you could say yes, according time these were posted earlier here and then later on TFS. But nah... moderators on TFS dont give a hell about you or that in general (or their rules for that matter!) and they PMed me 'its not enough to verify that what I say is true.' and 'because your forum is not open for gues view we are unable to verify it'. Like, REALLY ???? Oh come on. All proves are there, its just you hypocrites and liars there who dont even CARE to verify to begin with. Why not just saying it so then _ sorry we dont give a hell on if HH doesnt credit your site_ But nah, they 'play silly games' like that so that in the end you just say: go to hell and whatever.

And to top it all you get a BIG REMINDER ( forever (!!!! ooooh what an honour, thanks!)) that:

I mean, seriously ??? And how about you look at yourself for all the above ^^

So be warned, members !!!

* if you dare stick up for your site that is not credited properly on TFS - they wont care a bit about that but you will be warned about 'trying to promote your forum'(against 'rules') - even tho you dont even give the clickable URL there or any callinng in promo 'join us' speeches'. Geeee... if thats the promotion hey my forum must be so popular it doesnt any URL eh ?? How cool ! :P Seriously, what a bullshit. Oh and please add a reminder on 'your posts were deleted because they were offtopic and we are all about fashion and models here yadda yadda'. uhhum, right ! And I thought Im in car lovers forum for years now, thanks for enlightning, how nice of you.

* if you mention in your post on tfs how some members are such a great bashers you will get a 'reminder not to call people names' even though you dont put any names in your post and even though model are being called whores, ugly,etc, on TFS - its YOU who 'are being disrespectful', not them.

* if you dare post 'this is repost' because someones comes and is lazy to even look one (!!!) post above and spams with reposts your fave models thread you will be named 'mad' or 'angry'. (huh? good 'logic' eh?) by other 'clever members'. I guess you like reposts then, sorry I dont and I dont get why its necessary if its ALL exactly SAME was posted just one post above, not few pages back, one post above yours, jeeesussss... lord have mercy. Whatever.

* Do not spend much time as I did to contribute the good things that I did ( scans, finds, vids, infos, caps) there, please forget about fair mods or mdoerating there, please be aware that inspite of all the good stuff you give there it wont play a role and actually noone cares -except for some.

So yep, thats it. All the hype is just the hype, there is nothing about TFS as 'cool' as they make it to be. Except, I repeat myself , that its been on the net for a long while and has tooons of members so logically tons posts there.

Believe me I was also happy and excited to 'be chosen by God' whoopss.. I mean to finally get an 'invitation to the holly place' but with time theres nothing left but disappointment and all I described here.

Oh yes, to demonstrate my ' Medal for Labour Valour' here is the cap I made:

I got a 'golden medal' for 'being disrespectful towards bashers..whopss members in this post of mine':

Sadly I didnt capture this post before editing but all 'the disrespect I showed there was' : 'Welcome back bashers, what a bashers paradise here'.

Soooo for 'showing THUS disrespect' I got 'an eternal reminder' :P I know youre damn envious of me now :P Yep, I know right ! Its an honour for surrre.

And that MODS there are being DISRESPECTFUL towards members like that by moderaing unfairly and that so many members are being DISRESPECTFUL towards models calling them all the bad names ... who cares ?

It all comes from management. If the staff allows themselves acting like that and they dont have any respect for others then what one could expect from this place and many members there (not all, but many) ? If you call the boat 'crap' so will it float.

And yessssssssss thats why I created my forum to try not to repeat such moderation mistakes or be a different forum, where we - admins and mods- are or have also been members , simple members on other forums, so who if not us know too good how it may hurt when youre treated like crap or unfairly... I am happy to see that our members enjoy it and appreciate all our efforts there. LOL - this is not a promo, this is a breath of fresh air after all the forums like TFS, AAOF, BZ to name a few.

Guess, some people do envy that our members try to find exclusive stuffs for our forum and that its NOT ALL are 'originally posted on TFS'. In fact tons of our forums stuff are being reposted on TFS. And yes if I see anyone not giving us proper credit I tell to credit. Not for myself, for the forum and all our staff and members who spend time to find nice stuff or scan for us.

Ah well..............................

ps. The only thread on TFS Im gonna conribute pictures to is my fave model's thread ( well hey as long as Im not 'banned' LOL ) To post on a forum where things like above happen and still be nice and give THEM your time, your efforts ? No thanks. Id rather post there where it is appreciated and valued and where moderating method are actually build on FORUM RULES for All.

Some Hilary Rhoda Fans show how 'classy' they can act ! Ugh.

2009-07-24T16:31:00.006+02:00

Hi everyone ! Hellooooo :)

Nope, I am not gone yet , still around. Thanks for checking in back and yes IF I come stop by here then it means I have smth to say yet again - this time it has to do with some people who call themselves 'Hilary Rhoda fans'. Youll know why I put it into '''' after you read this. I dont think Hilary deserves such 'fans'.

A note: I dont speak of all her fans of course, but just a few persons . I am myself a fan of Hilary too...well, still inspite of how other 'fans' act and I have to say such 'fans' really dont help people to like Hilary more if they act so low. Okay youre probably curious by now. ..

As you know I run my own forum and logically I spend most time there and try to get the best, the exclusive photos, videos and what not there, spend tons of time to make the forum better.

Well, for a long time the above named 'fans' have been just logging onto my forum to spy on Hilary Rhoda updates that I and a couple of other members post in her thread there. And countless times those 'fans' - especially PK - they just take pictures or videos or caps that I found or made and posted on my forum - so they just take those and run over to thefashionspot( tfs) to repost them there. Yea they do credit our forum, but NEVER said a single 'thank you' or 'thanks' or posted ANYthing for our forum in return ! Never. Just come there, check on new stuff and run to tfs to repost there. Is that a nice behavior ? No, it is not. You'd think people at least can stop by and say a thank you for once. But nah. Just spying and stealing photos that I spend tons of my private time to find ( something different, something they dont have on TFS). And note, that I dont repost anything that they post on tfs, trying to find different good stuffs myself for my forum. I also got accounts on some photo sites and know where to look for pictures.

So, I asked them not to repost anything I post on my forum. Plain and politely. And that day I added new VS Pink photos of Hilary. Guess what, I was so curious how long will it take for them to NOT to repost those as I kindly asked ( asked on TFS and on my forum!). KJ never dares repost, she just spies on our forum and if she sees I post anything new she just runs over tfs and posts there 'hints' like : ' There are new VS Pink photos you know where'. Or : ' Hilary does VS PINK'. I mean, guys, how damn funny is that ???? lol Thus she gives hints so they come over my forum and steal those. Tell me guys how hard it is to just go to vs.com and get those couple of new pictures themselves if 'they are such big fans' ???? I know I spend time getting photos for my fave models and even for other models too because I know other fans will enjoy them too so if I have a free min Ill get their fave models pictures too. But these 'Hilary fans' I guess are either toooo lazy to do it themselves that they prefer just to steal my posts or I dunno... You tell me ! So yes, in the end of the day PK DID come and took those again AFTER I twice asked them not to ! They are so poor, so poor... I feel so sorry for them, if they only can steal like that.

And today I come to check Hilary Rhoda thread on tfs and what do I see - HH is posting there... well, in fact RE-posting there... my photos that I posted a while ago on my forum ! But here is the trick - she was posting those giving a WRONG credit ! That is, not for my forum where she took them, but just made up out of her head random photo sites names that she knows ! I was like HUH ???? Are you kidding me ? I wasnt even lazy to go back to my forum and check the imagebam codes of exactly same photos and then compare to the ones she posted and tell you what - they are 100% identical which means she was even lazy to re-upload those, she just stole my already uploaded pictures, with same codes and reposted with fake credits. Now, excuse me, darling, but thats pretty low and ugly. Shame on you ! Yickes. Not nearly as 'classy' as 'your fave model' eh ?

And to add to this, this is not even the photos that they dont have that she took from my forum - they had exactly same posted xxxxxxx times and even in HQ - but it is a fact that is known to many members on tfs - such 'fans' there are sooooo desperate to bump the thread they repost pictures thousand times a day , obviously preferring quantity over quality. Yes some members spoke up on that too there and mods I guess almost gave up deleting and editing threads there.
And to add to that again, that member HH gets 'all the praise' there for 'always posting untagged candids of Hilary' - yeah right, and guess how she does that this tme, she steals my time, my efforts by taking my photos and by repostin them there giving a fake source as if SHE got those from 'those sources' !!!!!! I am sorry but I call such people .... *censored*. Or just plain shabby to put it very mildly.

Oh and after I asked her on tfs why she reposts with the false source and takes my photos like that from my forum I got 2 mod squad reminders not to 'promote other forums because this is not allowed'. Um, I did not even mention a forums title/name in my posts !

You can check it yourself:

Yes I learnt it hard way, its always good to make caps, you never know when it will be deleted or edited. Who likes to hear the ugly truth ???

And this is for the codes, I move the mouse over one picture and made a screencap, so you can see the source link on the bottom of the browser. But yes I also clicked pictures and compared in the browser in full size as well, identical.

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my forum:

tfs:

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my forum:

tfs:

Hilary is an amazing model and I wish her nothing but all the best, but seeing her fans act like that is.... yep, exactly what you thought, readers !

Im outta here and Im glad Im outta HR thread on tfs because its a breath of fresh air on my forum where noone bashes anyone, where members are mostly nice and friendly and the main thing where staff members can act fairly.

xx

3 Questions

2009-05-28T11:28:00.003+02:00

Howdy.

The question number one is : isnt it sad, that the creator and owner of the BIGGEST FAKE Alessandra Ambrosio Myspace account is at the same time a moderator on her Official Forum ?

The question number two is: isnt it sad that that moderator just uses Ale official forum to promote her own ... 'copy of Ale official forum' ?

And question number three: would YOU trust your health to a medical nurse who is incredibly light-headed, has a very shallow mind, has zero sense of responsibility and lacks concentration ?

If you answered YES to the first two questions and NO to the last one...then I agree with you :) lol

Just some 'fans' observations...

2009-05-02T10:05:00.011+02:00

Hi, happy May month for ya'll ! :)

Now as for the theme. In no way this is meant to insult anyone, not even the 'not so smart ones', its just observations from a big fashion/models forum on the topic of 'fans' or 'models fans'.

You know, when something like the desrcibed below happens once, it maaay be just a single case, but when it is being repeated all the time...well you get the idea.

Ill start with the 'most recent cases' if you please. And yes, I do try to just ignore such um 'persons' as much as I can but unfortunately sometimes you cant put a wall between them and you, its one forum after all and with some you unfortunately happen to have 'same favorite models'.

Recently I posted an ad with Alessandra Ambrosio and Caroline Trentini in the latters thread. And I mentioned that those were scanned for Ale fans so of course Ale is a model in the centre of each picture but since Carol is there too , I was that kind :) to post them anyway in her thread. And what do you think ??? lol Nah, I didnt get 'thank you' for it. All I saw when I stopped by a while later was.... pretty much ' bashing Alessandra'. LOL One hmm hmm 'fan' was whining how 'Ale always has to be in the centre', another one hmmm 'fan' in his VERY regular manner just pretty much was putting down Ale ' ugh she looks like a reject compared with Carol'. Yeah, thats how some 'fans' are. Instead of just enjoying some new pictures of their 'fave models' all they do is whine and put other models down. I dont think that Carol would like to see such posts in her thread. More so they come from one country, Carol and Ale. But whatever.

And the same very fan, lets call him ' a1' ( not to tell the real member name lol), I noticed does that very thing ALL the time, putting other models down in the threads of 'his fave' models. Only for the last few days in Hilary Rhoda thread he put down pretty much everyone just to ...what ?? what for ?? To emphasize how awesome Hilary is by constantly putting other models down( her colleagues!) and comparing them with her ?? LOL It wont help anyone like Hilary more, thats for sure. Such fans only scare other 'potential fans' off by being so arrogant and disrespectful to anyone 'but their fave models'. For example, new candids of Hilary in a nice dress. Usually a fan would enjoy it and admire his model and all that, but nah, 'that fan' always says smth like ' Everyone else would look like a cheap ass in that dress (which looks trashy) and only Hilary can pull it off so well'. LOL Oh so 'his another fave model Carol looks like a cheap ass too 'I guess if he says so ??? And he says that 'his fave model Hilary has a horrible taste if she wears such a 'trashy dress' '?? How funny is that!!! lol

Also, its so amusing how since recently that 'fan' started to visit Miranda Kerr thread and do same thing there as well. Not that it helps to get more Miranda fans this way because honestly its unpleasant to check a thread where someone like he posts stuff like that all the time. He never was a Miranda fan before but for another member ( who is a genuine fan and a nice girl) he now comes there I assume 'to support'. LOL But you know what ?? This kind of 'support' does more harm then good. Because it all comes off VERY fake and arrogant at times. And its repeated over and over again so it became already pretty annoying and not funny at all if he 'tries to be funny or witty with such posts'.

Its amusing to see how many people just 'feed' such 'fans' and dont dare to say smth they really think of them and just nod 'yes, yes, youre right, yes yes youre the best, yes yes'... 'I am such a Caroline fan, I was called 'Carolista', we are all 'Carolistas' and everyone is like 'ohhh yes, yes,y es, we are, we are! ', 'Oh yes, how cute, ah ah...' Yuck.

You could think someone who is 30+ and all could have had MORE respect towards others and be somewhat clever but nah... Not the case sadly. That arrogant member , lets call her ' a2' is SO unpleasant, in each post theres a very unpleasant vibe. Like she thinks she is 'the tops of the world and she just does a favor to anyone else by even replying to their posts'. Geeez, lol. Talk about thinking of yourself as a 'pure gold' when on the inside you are a 'rotten apple' ! Oh yes she has a website where she pretty much just collects all scans from forums and posts there. NO, no credit involved. ( surprised ?? I am not.) She must think her posts are 'super witty and clever' which is far from it. Or that she is the only one who 'can be so cool and sarcastic'. Theres a differenct between being kindly sarcastic and just crappy. Oh well, as you know, everyone is so different.... and some are just like that.

Or recently in Adriana Lima thread there was a discussion of whether or not she will attend an event, which turned into a who is popular discussion, Adriana or Gisele. And... then comes a random member and says something ... pretty much random too lol: ' How tragic that Marisa Miller gets more searched then Alessandra'. Um, and what does it have to do with Adriana thread please ??? Okay. Most members there ignored that as did I. But not even a day later lol, there comes that 'a2' so-called 'fan' and immediately grabs that chance to add even more 'crap' to the pile and show once again what a highly unpleasant, arrogant and in the first line ignorant person she is :' How tragic is it that MariSSa Miller gets searched at all'. LOL Laugh of the day indeed Id say ! A clever person would ignore that random phrase but no, not 'a2', even though she spelled MariSas name incorrectly she still HAD to say smth unpleasant about her since obviously 'shes not her fave'. Does it say anything unpleasant or anything at all about Marisa herself ? No. Does it say anything about what a person 'hhhh' ? Yes. Draw your own conclusions, people.

I mean, I have many models that I dont get either or even think they are 'hmm lets say not so beautiful or great at all'. But you know what, I dont go to their threads to bash them. And I dont post in my favorite model Marisa Miller's thread stuff like ' Ohhhh Marisa is amazing and compared to her Cindy Crawford looks like a retard !'( as some other 'fans' post). Sorry Cindy, it was just for the example.

Feel the difference ? I hope so.

Now thanks God, not all fans are same. Ive been a loooong time member on a bunch of big and not so big models forums and I could really observe things well - its amusing to have fun at the cost of 'fans' like 'a2' or 'a1', ya know.

Now I try to avoid generalizations, but lets say I know that some Gisele Bundchen fans ( for example) are really nice. They dont have the need to compare Gisele to other models they dont get just to put those down and put Gisele on top. No. They enjoy her, support her and make others like her more because how can anyone not like a model who has such nice and mature fans ? Its very appealing ! I do know though of one Gisele 'fan' who is the exception from that bunch of nice fans of Gi but I dont even want to talk about her much and gladly our ways dont cross on forums where I post nowadays so thats fine.

Also, a good half of Miranda Kerr fans ( not fake fans like 'Simsri' of course) are all nice people who respect not only their fave model but other models ( aka her colleagues) too as well as other people so props for them - you know who you are, I dont need to call the names :)

Also, he may not even suspect that he appeared in my blog here lol but I really want to say that ThiagoMello is one of the nicest fans I know - I never saw him bash any model and from many many posts and deeds I saw he is genuinely nice and respectful. He is always there to stop by his faves and show them some love without putting others down or coming off as an arrogant bitch. Just wanted to say that he is one of the nicest fans around even he may never know that I post here !

Also, Raquel Zimmerman has nice fans.

Alessandra Ambrosio, well, lets say.... she has tons tons tons of fans and they are all very very very different lol. The ones I talk to are nice, but Id say she has more then a half of all fans that dont bash other models and just are simple nice people. Not all, but many.

I wont talk about myself now lol, they say its not so modest to speak about yourself like how amazing you are hahaha... :P. Well, you can ask anyone on models forums, Marisa Miller fans were never seen bashing any model or talking disrespectfully or arrogant towards others. And whats the better prize one as a true fan can get when people come to you and say how they started to like your fave model too just because you as her fan are so nice and can act mature and respectful.

Of course this topic is huge but Im gonna put a stop here :) Yep, on a high note :P

xxx

Crediting on forums. Originally or not originally , thats the question !

2009-04-05T15:43:00.014+02:00

Howdy!

Well, if you are a member of any forum where pictures are being posted you definitely know or heard about such a thing like giving a credit /crediting.

Usually, people give credit to those posters or /and forums where they got pictures/vids/info from. They say a must credit thing is scans - logically so, scanners are people who I also believe must be credited in the first place.

I myself is one of the active contributors ( I literally take hours of my personal time to search for new pictures on the internet) and I also scan as well as cap videos so I understand only too good when someone says 'they took pictures I found and didnt credit me'. Most people are bothered not just or not only because their scans were cropped or resized by someone somehwere on the net ( mine were too and its not a nice feeling to see that, believe me...okay, its internet, sure, we all know that, but its still possible to be nice on the net too... cause you know...there are always 'traces' ;o)) but mostly because they dont get any credit for their efforts and invested time to find certain stuffs or scan.

There are no rules as far as crediting goes. Usually as I said people credit scanners and any other posters they 'take pictures from and repost'. Usually its just nice to give a credit to someone if you 'take something from them' - either a picture or a video or the like.

People search the net for photos and I will tell for myself, if I come across a picture on another forum, I will definitely mention it when reposting that find. But usually I have other sources where I look for pictures... not gonna give all my secrets here :P Therefore its always nice to see when people credit me ( although I dont demand creditng me as in mentioning my members name, its enough when people mention my forum) if they repost pictures - and thank you everyone who does so, its always appreciated. I myself also give credit all the time when doing the same.

But what I find ummm... not even funny or hilarious lol, but hmmm, dont even know how to put it into words properly ... Crediting has so many 'sides'... Okay, lets take victoriassecret.com - they update the site with new pictures and you can of course download/get all the pictures there on the website. However its possible to find more pictures then the ones they put online. So people who took time to look for such pictures IMO of course, should be credited, since its not like the pictures are available to all on the site. But whats funny, people download all vs pictures that are ON the website already , post on a forum AND ask people to credit only their forums for that lol - come on, its not like YOU found them and only you can have an access to those. This is just plain silly, not credit-worthy and unnecessary !

What else do people credit ? Well, caps is something else that usually should be credited. I do tons and tond of screencaps of videos capped by others ( then I mentioned who capped a vid), or just videos that are on the net or the ones I have on my computer ( for a long time now). Again, it takes time to pick a nice still, retouch just a bit ( prettify:)) and post. Usually I do put tags on my caps. And on my 'picture finds'. In case people dont credit when reposting. I know its not so cool when you want to have a clean picture and theres a tag and I would most definitely never tag anything I cap, scan or post IF it was credited. But its not always the case therefore I have to tag some stuffs - although even when I tag I do try to make them as less noticable as possible so that they dont annoy people who look at the picture BUT so that I can anytime ID ' my stuffs'.

Of course there are common places like myspace or hey just our good old friend google lol where people search for images and what not. But even so I dont mind crediting someone who took time to search for a picture ( heck ! Even if its myspace and I know for sure Ive seen it there too) just because its.. I dont know...just a common courtesy Id say.

BUT there are always people ( Im sure you came across such too lol. If not- then ooooh, good for you I guess ! ) on forums who ALWAYS try to draw attention to them by the following. Imagine, someone posted a picture tagged with a forums name 'angelsforum.com'. Everyone is like, oh cool, thanks, nice candid find , etc. AAAAANDDDD THATS where 'such people' come into action lol. They aaaaaalways have a weird need to stop by and say ' HERE it is UNTAGGED. Its on myspace page of angels- so you know!'. Ummm, okay, thanks. But first off, NOONE asked for untagged one ( Im sure if people asked for an untagged one, posters would satisfy their request. ). And second, SO WHAT ?????????????????? lol I mean, if you know where that find came from, hell, GOOOD FOR YOU then I guess! Put a winner ribbon across your shoulder, put a crown on your head and be happy ! Naaah, they just wanna show that they KNOW where it came from even if they are not asked. How booo-worthy is that ? lol Oh and third - even if you know this source, why then didnt YOU take time and post it on a forum then ???????? No, they just come and 'spoil' the atmosphere when its not needed at all. Can you tell I dislike 'such posters' ?? You bet i do !

Like recently, in Julia Stegner's thread someone came by ( who I didnt see was updating JS thread there much at all to begin with !), okay so she stopped by and quoted a member who credited me and my forum for 2 picture finds and even put word 'originally' in italics in her reply, how hilarious is that : HERE is the original source of these 2 pictures blah blah blah '. LOL Well, the only good thing is that the link was new to me ( because its not THE original place I found those two pictures, so thanks for it, may be there are more of new to me images there Ill check!) but I mean, heck, was that uncalled for und unnecessary !'. Darling, if YOU know 'original source', then why the heck didn YOU take time to get those pictures and post in JS thread ????? lol Naaah, 'such people' never do. They only come to say bull*** like this. I dunno why. To show THEY know THE sources??? lol So what ? I know some good sources too. And guess what, I also come across pictures that people give credit for to other forums although I personally know where you can find those too and even untagged as well but I dont come to a thread and scream - AHA! HERE IT IS UNTAGGED. AND BTW THIS IS THE ORIGINAL SOURCE! SO you , dumb people, know !' Geeeeeeeeeeeez, how pathetic. I always want to ask such people - SO WHAT ??? Did posting so make you happier now ??? GOOD for you. Well done in showing everyone what kind of a person you are.

And extra for 'such know it all kind of low quality posters/forum members' --- people usually credit the place or poster where they for the first time saw the pictures regardless of where they come 'ORIGINALLY'. Thats such a weird word. What is originally ?? I always laugh when someone credits a person who just took an available-for-all VS picture, for instance, and says like 'picture originally found by XXX'. No really, thats too funny, ladies and gents. Okay, so that means this member XXX IS the one who took that very picture for VS with her/his camera and retouched it and put it on VS website right ??? Oh rrrrrrrrrrrright !

So yeah. Crediting is tricky tricky lol.

Some people credit ones but not credit others due to their own reasons like jealousy, envy, whatever. Others never credit anyone. Then there are people who take the pictures that are right there and anyone anyone anyone can see them but they still ask to credit them or their forums for those lol. And then there are people who always credit... So thats about it.

Ciao cacao.
Hope its as sunny and nice there where you are as its here where I am lol !

Shabby/mean/nasty much ? ( (some) Bellazon Barbara Meier Fans re-loaded')

2009-03-27T14:16:00.010+01:00

Hi all ! Yep, its update time again !

Intro: (from 'Dumb&Dumber' movie, a bit alternated tho) '...And just when I think you cant get any dumber/meaner/shabbier, you stop by and...totally prove me wrong !!!'

This is the previous post on the subject of Barbara Meier (BM) bellazon fans. Sorry, Barbara, that I had to mention your name within SUCH unpleasant stuff but you gotta know that too, how SOME of your fans act behind your back and how they 'promote and support' you.

So yesterday one of 'those bz fans' ( see my previous post on that) after a long time just spying on my forum where I have BM thread all of a sudden decided its time to show everyone one more time what a shabby person she is( whoops, I mean, 'what a loyal loving BM fan she is' of course !) and these are the caps I made:

Note, that I personally did NOT come to bellazon (BZ) to 'their BM thread' to post rude shabby comments like she did on my forum. It was that 'loyal loving BM fan' who came to BM thread on another forum to post rude stuff and spoil the air there. Reason? Hmm I have NO idea, what was the purpose of it ? Provoking much ? Well now you guys have an update here - thanks to that 'fan'. I actually did not delete it and left for a while and even replied but this was THE last time I EVER reply to 'fans like this' on my forum or any other forum - should it come again, it will be just deleted without any replies, I dont have that much time to talk to shabby 'kaka, wa' people who only come to inflame or harrass or provoke others - in 'their fave model threads' ( they definitely 'do Barbara much good' by doing that !). How ironic is that,guys, I think this alone says what kind of 'loving fans' those are.

Hmm...This was such a handfull of nonesense and gag that was posted in BM thread on my forum by that Z. 'fan' that I dont even know where to start. To each single 'claim' one can easily find facts that prove the opposite. Please read it carefully and draw your conclusions yourself (see above caps). I dont even have to add anything since she pretty much said a LOT about herself with her posts and the way she talks to people. But Ill do anyways, I dont mind lol. I know it wont change a shabby mind even if you chew it all and explain it all xxx times but Im that kind (today) to post it anways since some people dont even TRY to use their brain cells ( if any left) to at least TRY to think before they post gag like Z. did.

* No, with copying my blog I meant that you started a blog AFTER you found out about mine of course and not what you said about 4mln people - if its THAT hard to get

* Yep, I sit behind BM house and stalk her everyday 24/7, I have my hot 'maggie' cup and yeah, stalking like that ya know... No, but there are pretty simple ways to contact BM personally, which I already did and she did read my message about how 'some fans like Z. support her'. Not gonna explain it to you and bring it for you ready on a blue plate - try to make your brain cells work, may be youll get it, eventually, who knows, Ill keep fingers crossed for ya

* I didnt get that 'devils and defamation' part at all - must be very very 'clever', 'too clever' for me. It must be only for 'chosen ones' like Z.

* Ohhh now, about the 'revealing dates' ( taadaam! Sherlock Holmes has a 'competition' , alarm,alarm everyone ! lol). As I already said in my post ( see caps above) - how about downloading ALL pictures I post in my BM thread and comaring them ( size, exiff data, colors, etc.) with the ones 'bz fans' post ? Also I dont give a damn what time or what date 'bz fans' post what on bz - surprise, wa? Know why ? Cause I dont care. When I have time - then I search and post updates in my BM thread on my own forum. Whether its 'after 2 or 3 days after 'bz posts' or one day before 'bz posts' - I dont care at all. You can follow and say whatever nonesense you believe in, if that makes you feel happy. And btw, I am NOT even a member on bz for longer then a year now and I cant even view it as a guest since Im 'banned' in favour for PincCouture to have all the 'adoration and admiration all to herself' ( see previous posts).

* Yes, I find 90% of stuff I post in BM thread in MY forum on MY own, therefore it takes tons of time, therefore its disgusting that someone comes and posts bull** like Z. did without even thinking first.

And now some 'sensational' stuff that 'loyal loving BM fans' like Z. STILL dont get :

* Hmm....Same editorial pix you say you saw I posted ???? Well, SURPRISE, surprise ! It is THE SAME Model, right ??? lol OF COURSE there are 'same' pictures ! Or you think Barbara is going to post Special 'for true BZ fans only' pictures with read hair and for all others 'not worthy' pictures with green hair ????? lol Boy, this really shows what kind of 'fans are some BZ fans' there lol. Oh and btw, there is also "gasp!" - SAME NEWS and updates too ! OMG ! Imagine that ! But noooo, it doesnt come from Barbaras official homepage, it all comes from 'bz thread' - even "gasp" Barbara herself reposts her own news and pictures from 'bz' ! OMG. Rrrright. Everyone and all are nothing, BZ is EVERYTHING ! You know I get a feeling that YOU is a BZ fan and not a Barbara fan at all lol. They way you promote BZ everywhere so passionately you should better promote 'your fave model' and not 'your fave thread' lol. Poor Barbara....to have such fans like Z., yikies :(

* How can anyone who herself does nothing but reposts stuff from other sites (BMOffSite) and forums in her blog come to my thread and accuse me of doing so ???? What is her blog ??? Well, her blog is ...NOTHING NEW actually ! She reposts there pictures from 'bz thread' and BM fan forum and BM official site updates. I did NOT see ANYTHING that Z. posts in her blog that I can say, wow, thats a great find there or wow thats smth nice/new ! Nothing but reposts all in all. And she dares accuse others in reposting ????? Um right person to do so indeed ! lol

* Yet another 'sensation for Z.' - now deep breath in, out, sweetie,okay, I can say now I hope. Take a grip though cause it may shock ya. Allright. Now, imagine, that....surprise, surprise! YOU are NOT the ONLY one who has... "gasp!" - a computer, internet and...OMG- our good old friend- google !!!!!!! Wow, you didnt know that ? Awww...well sorry to enlighten ya ! Fancy that, I also have google and OMG I also know BM official forum address and even...*shhh!* (dont tell anyone) where Barbara updates her "gasp!" picture galleries and news FOR ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG! And you thought it was JUST you ??? Or that 'BZ thread' is THE powers that be ! lol Sorry to bring ya down to Earth. But yeah, youre not the only one who knows how to search for pictures and all. Its just that NOT ALL who get quality stuff cry out loud for attention like YOU do. They just do their work and enjoy their fave models without coming into other forums threads of her and insulting her other fans like you do. Do you REALLY think Barbara will like it when she finds out how YOU try to be rude against her other fans who actually try to support and promote her ( and not her threads) ????? More so, without ANY valid reason to begin with !

Of course, as you say 'I dont care about Barbara'...I dont come to other forums and post rude disgusting and insulting nonesense. All I do is updating and supporting and loving Barbara on my own forum and on The fashion spot ( btw, a MUCH bigger fashion forum then 'your mighty bz thread'). Of course ' I dont care', its just that my BM thread I created is one of the popular threads in my forum and especially it proves how I 'dont care' that there are people who found out about Barbara Meier the Model thanks to me and my threads and say THANK YOU to me.

As for me 'not crediting'. Take another look at ALL my posts on ALL forums, Im the one who always credit therefore it really is upsetting when I dont get a credit or when my scans are being used without crediting me like some of 'bz fans' do. ( took my bio beauty scans and resized and uploaded them to FMD profile of BM without even asking me). Oh and imagine, I even credited you once I came across your post in BM fan forum ! And you say 'I dont credit' - tsk, tsk, tsk

So ALL nonesense you posted in BM thread on my forum is nothing but your sick imagination or may be envy and jealousy, who knows ? How many people said 'thank YOU, Z., for telling me about BM, I like her because of you, Z. '??? And I get that and not only in case with Barbara. And Im happy if people start to warm up to models I like and support because of me as well and because of the way I support them. I do think that fans of a model can influence ones liking her or not but I may blog on it next time.

And btw, besides of the 'holy place - bz thread' - yet, another sensation for Z. ! bingo!- there are many other forums and BM threads- surprise ! And its you who sit tight on your 'bz thread' and smell bad whereas other 'not worthy' fans actually promote BM on other forums and support more threads of her at the same time and not just one 'holy place' where no potential employee stops by.

And finally, for people who want some other examples to get it right...

* Imagine, you bult a house. A very nice house. Then come guests to your house, start to mob you, the atmosphere gets all rotten, you decide to burn your house and leave and give it to them, if they want it that much. You leave. You go somewhere else and build there another - even better - house, even more beautiful.All alone. When all of a sudden one of those 'guests' comes by your new house and pours sh*** there, just so. How does it feel ? You know what they say ' LIVE AND LET LIVE', you left it for them there, you didnt bother them in now 'their holy house' and yet they come to you and dont let you live, smells too bad ewww... Well thats what Z. did.

* Someone sits in his house, watches TV and enjoys the life in his little circle. All of a sudden he decides to go out and OMG, hes not THE only one human being, there are sooo many people around, so many houses... He stops by the first house , stalks it for a while then during yet another visit -OMG- he sees a TV set there too and he is like ' What the hell, I perceive my TV set here each time I stop by !'. Um, hello, says another being, I actually bought it myself, at this store and the address is known to everyone. If you also have a TV set, doesnt mean we have the same. ( Z. and 'repost' complex/fobia/mania/fear/idea fix/you name it). Clear enough ? Good.

So yeah. Oh, and I did ban Z. on my forum. How could I not, if she asked it herself ? lol Gotta respect her wishes, guys ! Even tho she doesnt have any respect towards anyone.

On a serious note though, I banned her because she posted rude inflamatory and disrespectful posts which is against Forum Rules and is stated under 1. in Forum Rules thread. I quote:

1. Absolutely No Flaming/Harrassment/Bashing

Please show respect to your fellow members, staff of this board, and models by treating everyone how you wish to be treated. We expect all members to be courteous to their fellow members, to the models, and to the staff of this board. Calling people names, discussing inappropriate topics or treating people poorly is greatly frowned upon. Depending on the severity of the issue, you will be warned, or banned. BANS FOR THIS SORT OF THING ARE PERMANENT UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED. Please note this ALSO includes insulting people because of their weak grasp of a language. If we find this happening, you will be warned.

Please remember to be respectful and polite at all times!! It is possible to discuss things without caling people names or being plain rude. Remember that :'Its nice to be important but its even more important to be nice'.

Afterword.

You know, guys, there always will be such people everywhere, not only on forums... The ones that can only stink and be obnoxious, harmful, mean and nasty and all they do is provoke other people or inflame anything just because they apparently get a kick out of it for their own reasons.

Its always good to stay away from this kind of 'people'. So I try to do so as well but as you see, they still manage even when you dont even touch them in their holy places , they still come to you and show once again 'all that they are worth'. Apparently they cant stand if anyone is doing well or being a nice person inside and out or has something that they lack so badly.

Now tell me, would you like such Z. fans if you were a model ? lol Oh Im 'surrre', they would 'promote' you verrrry 'nicely'.

Z. has no respect for herself, nor for Barbara, nor for other Barbara fans who unlike Z., actually just do their work and support and enjoy Barbara as a model and as a great person she is and not 'her threads'.

Herein, I want to put a full stop on such BM 'bz fans' and their mean ways of doing Barbara bad. Too much of an honor to keep talking about them again, so this is it and those who have eyes will see, those who have ears will hear, those who have brains, will understand it all correctly and wont need any further exmaples or explanations.

Cheers !

xx

ps. Oh and just one tiny thing. This is called BLOG. I blog here. Its not FORUM here.I am not here to 'discuss' things as Z. I guess want to lol( sorry to disappoint ya, honey!) , I already do much by allowing the comments and publishing them - all as they come. But no dicussion is needed here. Its all said in my blog posts.

ps1. Why other 'bz fans' like Snuffy, Reeyo and others dont care or at least dont come to any other forums and show their disrespect for Barbara and other people who actually like her a lot and try to support her too ? No, its just Zotti. Hmmm, I know, she must be THE 'most loyal and most /bestest BM fan ever' ! lol She is the only one person on Earth who wants Barbara alllll to herself. My little tip for Barbara - bodyguards may be a good idea, because its getting dangerous if there are fans like Z. You never know... On a serious note though again, I find it very sad and not nice at all that such a model like Barbara has fans like Z. who dont do Barbara any good by behaving like Z. does.

Copy much ? (its a long post , youre warned lol)

2009-03-27T01:09:00.005+01:00

Slowly but surely I come up now to something that I wanted to post a long while ago but didnt make it yet so Im doing it now and the subject in point is...copycats :O

YES. I HATE. COPYCATS. I dont like people who lack their own ideas and steal other peoples work and even more - make money or 'reputation' based on the ideas of others which they claim to be their own. Yuck ! Love independant, strong, clever and creative people, the REAL thing. Not two-faced persons with shallow mind and stone heart who only can attack behind your back.

YES. I had my 'fair share' of troubles because of so-called copycats. I worked at a creative place so I know it toooooo good how it feels when your ideas, damn even your way of typing/writing (! lol) is copied by others. Sure, it 'shows you should be flattered' if youre copied. But no, I dont feel flattered. I dont want to ! I just dont want my ideas copied, period. lol Sorry cant help it but I m like that - a PERSONALITY. And a creative one I dare say :P lol. Modesty aside ! Of course not THE only one on earth and I highly admire any other bright clever person , other cool original ideas and wholeheartedly loooove such people - they are stimulating and experiences with them enrich ones life, its a pleasure to communicate and to deal with such people. Sadly, they are rare enough these days...So why Im typing all this 'intro'...since its a 'painful' theme for me from my life experiences I can react immediately to stuff like that.

Please let me type another intro as well :) Ok ? :) Thanks! Some time ago one forum member and I came up with the idea of a forum- she came up with the idea of VS angels forum.Cool. Smth new, at least I dont know any good forum of that theme. She wanted to be the root admin and she made me the second admin. Ill try to be verrrrrrry short, so in a few words. She did: created aweful tasteless banners, didnt care about forum, tech stuff, didnt care about supporting ALL vs angels subforums ( altho other staff members tried to support all of them since its the main them and not just their own faves!). I stayed up late at night talking to her discussing stuffs, trying to say why a tastelessly made banner with falling animated hearts with weight more then 5MB is not her best idea for the forum, but all was in vain. AAAAAnway....it got really unbearable to work with such a person. And yes, I worked pretty well with other staff members - moderators, no prob at all. It came to a point when our ways parted. Me and other moderators came up with our own idea for a forum and started to work on it. The old forum was impossible to carry on not only because one admin is not an admin at all and is impossible to work with but there were also technical reasons that made old forum not as enjoyable. So we came up with our own idea which is - love victoria's secret models. Figured instead of supporting all angels why not just make subforums for just our fave models ? It took much time and testing this and that and I had to learn A LOT before we have what we have now - a refreshing nice forum. Believe me I know what it means to be an admin. Not only have an admin 'title' under your member avatar but to actually do all the admin 'dirty' work and moderator work too ! Very time consuming too. Which that person above didnt do AT ALL. She just wanted to be 'THE BOSS' and all others ( coughme,mods,cough) do all the 'dirty work'. Anyways, after we opened a forum and it was going well for us she started to whine that we 'stole her idea'. Um, VS angels forum ( subforums for current VS angels) and love VS models ( 3 subforums for 3 of my and other mods most fave models plus other sexy models and fashion and vs subforums) is definitely not the same. All in common it has - VS. Which is Victorias secret. Yes, we like VS , we like models and we like fashion so there ya go, we created such a forum. But it has nothing to do with angels as old one had and where angles was the main topic.

Now, after a while that person ( of course sooner or later it would have happened lol !) also decided to create a forum - and that she is already a moderator ( with my help cause I wrote the promotional vote for me speech for her ) on her fave models official forum means nothing to her...its not enough power, people !!! Not enough! Arghh just not f*** enough ! She wanted more, she wanted to be 'THE BOSS', THE admin dammit !!!! So there ya go - she 'created' a forum. And nope, she didnt use this lovely VS Angels idea ( which is a shame me thinks! Nor did she let me use it nor used it herself...ahhh some people *rolls eyes*), she just... created a copy of her fave model official forum - haha. Yep ! From what I 'got' its dedicated only to Ale ( her fave model). Makes NO sense at all since Ale is WELL known to have a huge good official forum already. Okay, thats half as bad, wait till you find out its title, people !!!

And -drum roll pls! its title is ' Alessandraskisses' ( only 'kisses' written in portiguese).

Um okay. Reminds ya anything ??? 'Love', 'Kisses'...Love ...models....Ale kisses... Right on, the girl didnt give her own brains any work, why bother, she just copied our forum title a bit , easy breesy and voila! Hell, if they made a forum with the 'love' name and hearts and that nice banner of 3 fave models blowing kisses why cant I make an 'ale kisses' forum with a banner of ale blowing kisses and hearts too ? Ohhhh dearrrr, this is called copycating, honey. FYI.

Further - even worse. Copied our forums title idea, copied our banners idea, copied even our webiste ! And after I created a SPECIAL banner with 'Often imitated - never duplicated' on it and copyright sign on it and put it up, she urgently closed her forum for 'some fierce changes' and it was re- opened and -surprise, surprise!- there was 'all content copyright to alekisses forum' blah blah blah - HOW L.A.M.E is that ?????????? LMAO. No wonder almost noone is posting on their forum. You know why ? Cause it just aint make any sense and it aint anything new or creative or attractive for members. Who needs yet another copy of Ale official forum ? lol But, she is THE ADMIN, taaadaaam, so her 'long time dream came true' ! Awwwwwwwwwwww... I guess thats why she took more then 6 (!) other admins and mods as her staff team - to do all the 'dirty work' LOL

Here are a couple of examples of copycating case.

So this is it. This is the story. Which is now history.

Dont settle yourself for copycats and poor imitations, BE creative, people, be original. I hope many of you who read this are not like such copycats - that person I told you about- but are amazing persons who actually have their own cool ideas and their own style. And if so, hat off for ya ! And mucho respect.

Some Updates, people !

2009-03-27T00:41:00.004+01:00

Hi everyone !

Well, youd think after those forum admins/mods read my blog they would change it for the best then or try to prove me wrong lol but nah, not even that but s*** keeps on pouring ( sorry for the harsh words, guys, but I really dont know how to put it mildly at the moment). Thus, giving me more 'material' to blog - well as long as they 'supply' us so 'nicely' lol, you can come and check for updates. No sugar coating here whjatsoever, no imaginary, its all right onto the point and as harsh as the reality sometimes is. Im here to show you the 'OTHER' side of some big and not so big fashion forums or even ... some famous models' fans... Im not a judge, nor a teacher, all I do is give you information, good information and what you do with it - its up to you I guess.

Anyways, for the 'followers' :) Ive got some updates.

The situation with the TFS and invitations ( see previous posts please) was cleared up ( and I thank a moderator who took her time to reasearch and explain it to me - I do appreciate that a lot, thank you for your reply !) and so...they took my invitation privileges away because...well, because I had a link to my blog in my signature there on tfs forum and clearly said a members name who ' likes to ban people from bz for nothing' ( literally it was like this : PinkCouture bans members on bz for nothing + my blog link where I explained more), so thats why they decided to take away my inviting permissions :

Not that I was going to invite anyone else on there but I thought it was actually nice of that exact moderator to take time and reply to me so once again, thank you for that.

Now, at first sight all seems 'fine' again, and the peace is in the city again...Until today, when I noticed how my posts count number dropped down - yesterday I had 3 890 posts on TFS forum and today when I logged in to post, it was 3718. So, thats 172 posts that... what, lost ? Really weird. Okay, Im going straight to the 'members support' subforum, after checking things out I found that:

Some people were wondering that too and had noticed posts counts drop ( not that many though). There are subforums there where posts do not count since they are not really fashion-related but I dont post there anyway, 99% of my posts are in fashion and models threads, so its not 'my case' then.

Okay, if not this then what ??? Staff is 'cleaning old threads' and just deleted 172 posts of mine all because of 'empty posts ... comments that don't add content' ???? 172 ???? Are you serious ???? Cause thats shocking and not true at all. Gosh I mean, some people are already 'scared' to say 'thanks' there sometimes since it gets deleted too ( not always and not of all members, but deliberately). And I posted even more back in the time and most stuff were my scans ( alone VS scans...I dont even count, so many I scanned and posted), other mag scans, my video caps, in a word- definitely not 'empty useless posts'.

So yeah. Unpleasnt and shocking ? A bit - yes. Much? Not really - especially now that I ( and you) know how it REALLY is there so why wondering much? Im not the only member who noticed a very UNFAIR treatment on the fashion spot forums. Its what people see, and often theres an impression that mods like HF models so their fans can do whatever they want, post just 'thank you', power post, not credit picture sources properly, etc. And if you dare like a 'commercial' model, then get ready to hear tons of unpleasant things there about her and have your posts deleted and more. It just leaves a very unpleasant feeling, this kind of the way things are there... Sad :(

So, they 'punished' me and took my invite privileges away but since I dont really care that I cant invite anyone anymore now this one, 172 posts just disappeared ???? lol I dont claim anything, guys, I just wana know why ???? WHY? Why Fontana fans are allowed to post one word posts like ' aww' or even just a smile -post-only whereas other members get their valuable posts deleted ???? Why ? Why such 'deliberate biased moderation' ????

Well, thats the 'thank you' good members get for contributing so much there. But you know, its even good to experience this too, so that I can create a totally different atmosphere on my own forum and not repeat this kind of forum management. And actually have forum FOR members. Not for admins or mods to show off their powers.

Waahhhhhhhh...

Some conclusions or looking back... and smth else.

2009-02-03T21:52:00.014+01:00

Hi, yeah Im being very 'productive' as of late lol :P

I was just backing up the blog and thats why had to go quickly through all posts I made so far and thought would be good to make some conclusions from all that stuff described below...

~ For people who are interested on update with AAOF ( Ale Ambrosio official forum) described in my first posts here.

Well, as I already said , yes technically I can post there but I dont post as much and actively as I used to ( more on that as I said in my first posts)- it just NOT the same anymore- obviously. Not only for me, for all. Yes, still same admins, 'elected' by members a new moderator who promised to 'make it better and as it was before' ( but it still isnt ! lol)...admins dont post as much as they used to either. Props and kudos for them for trying to 'make things better' this way or another, but it seems like 'someone even higher' had a 'nice talk' with them- ether way, they dont post much on forums they manage. Quiet, quiet, quiet. Old members and almost all those who used to be a cool friendly active member company dont post as much either, if at all. As I said, me included. I just dont feel like it, its dead. Sorry, Alessandra, but even my liking for you cant save it. I wish you all the best though. But forum is...just not as good as it was and thats a fact confirmd by many members.

~ For those interested on update with BZ. ( maaan I have quite a list here already lol...oh well)

Yes, Im apparently 'banned for ever' ( for NO reason at all ) lol - more on that in my earlier posts, all whys and how it turned like that. Yes, even 'banned from guest viewing' as well lol ( woohoo, fear me, fear me, Im aweful ! gosh, this is truly sad and ugly from the side of bz.), but as I said I have a way to still now and then check it.

'Miss Pinks' aka PC is still as fakey-super-dooper-nice as it can get ( of course!) and all is same and rotten in 'her queensland' there.

Naive people are still naive ( or just d***) and eat all they are served there and I truly wish them to not wake up and see the reality.

---> I dont feel like posting on AAOF and Im sorry but I dont feel like posting even on my all time fave model's official forum- fashionmodeltalk ( sorry Marisa, but IF you have a chance to read at least a bit, youll learn why and I know youll understand and agree.) ( please say 'thank you' for that to PC, the goal is reached.). Certainly Im supporting all my faves just in one place - which is nice and friendly, my own forum, I understand more and more that me and other guys n girls made a great decision when we created it. No more shabby admins, no more unfair moderation, no more banning just so...it feels just soooo AWESOME ! Truly a relief.

~ Yeah well and tFS...Ill post on it later....But I can say, that if Im gone from there, Im afraid MM thread and BM thread in particular will be back to being dead again.

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Let me see, Ive been to quite a bunch of forums (big ones) and must say that:

1. The only treasure that all the forums have is those few intelligent, caring, active, so-called 'quality' members. Those members who not only spend much of their personal time posting but post and contribute great stuffs to the forum and keep a good atmosphere too. Who are 'loyal' to the forum.

2. Follows from the above, too often Forum management (staff, admins, mods...) forgets that its not them (or just them) but members are the ones who keep the forum active and lively and add to its pictures, videos and etc. And treat members poorly sometimes for no reason. As an admin myself ( I guess Im like a mammoth - there are hardly such ones these days for whom 'being impartial, fair, respectful and professional' is not just words.)I know and understand how it sometimes annoys if members dont read rules ,etc. but then theres a reason to give a warning or a reminder and not just so !

3. Almost noone cares much. Sadly.Why do I ? I mentioned that too already. First, I value my personal time and of course if I invest so much of my time for contributing good stuffs to a forum, naturally that I do care, its my time and efforts after all too.And then, what can I say, Im into models and fashion for a loooong time now and whether I want it or not , there will be such 'shabby cases' in forums , noone is protected against it. The only way not to go through it as I did is not to post on ANY forum at all but I cant, I need my models fix ( therefore I created my own little but nice forum !!!). And most members dont care about stuff I describe here until it comes to their home. Only if it happenes to a member himself, until then yeah, there are hardly any who care much - sadly, sadly ! And you know, they say 'informed - means protected'.

4. Not all admins/mods can handle the 'given to them privileges' to be able to edit posts, ban, delete posts, etc. Its very tempting to use it just to....(show that member that I am the one with the power; punish that girl who is prettier then me; you name it !) and not because there is really anything 'against the rules'.

5. Follows from the above again, members, please, remember, that Forum Rules in many forums are NOT made for ALL. No. They are not for all. If youre lucky ( that is, not cuter/more clever/popular/etc.etc.etc. then admin or a mod) then youll be the one who may not follow the rules. cause you are 'good girl' or a 'good boy' and its okay if you dont follow the rules.Well, and if you get unlucky....you may be banned just so, your posts may be deleted just so and the rules are made juuuuust for you. Not for other member and of course, not for staff. ( again, this is not the case in my forum, ask my mods, I even tell them straight too if I see they do smth 'against rules', inspite of any friendship or likeness. I hope there are still a few more then just my forum where rules are really made for ALL).

6. Of course models have a busy busy life...but imagine if our fave models knew what we have to go through to support them !!!!...Or, what kind of 'forum staff' manages their forums...

And a story. A friend of mine (after I told him about my blog and all that) told me today, that one member in a forum where he is also a member ( it has nothing to do with models or fashion tho), so that member recently joined and started to post and contribute much and very passionately ( hehe, I said then that ooooh bro I can understand her lol) and the other day she started a thread and as a title she wrote with huge huge letters 'THANK YOU'. Everyone was puzzled there...Huh? And when they read it, it turned out simple...She said, she just wanted to say 'thank you' , that thanks God, she was just so happy to have found that forum because she was on others and all of them seem to have immature staff, unfair mods, members, bashing each other and what not - its way too often to see so thats why she wanted to say an extra 'thanks' for being able to just to post and actually enjoy it as well.

I hope she will stay happy there. Its really refreshing to find such a forum, I agree.

Since I dont make any promo for my forum even tho I mention it I dont give the link here in my posts, but attentive people will find it :)

Oh and if you are like me, happened to 'be treated like that for no reason' ( you post good stuff, invest time and heart into it, then pooooofff, youre banned for no reason and you cant even delete your posts; its like you came as a guest to some people and brought some yummy food and they just pushed you behind the door and shut it in front of your puzzled face.) and you still want to post and ENJOY the forum, I dare say then, that youre welcome to join mine.

Anywhoo...I gotta go! See you around or not, just stay human. This is so important. Stay kind, nice and respectful, as you see, theres much sh** and shabbiness already in the world, that is, some forums...so lets not add to it, let them ban us, delete our posts if they feel like doing that even tho its unfair, karma is a boomerang , it will get back at everyone.

xx.

Why cant a forum moderation be fair and impartial and why cant we all leave in peace and happiness and mutual respect ?? Ahhhh those eternal questions....I still believe it can be done if people really want to. But not all want.

Some Barbara Meier 'Bellazon fans' act sooo immature and shabby its not even funny.

2009-02-03T19:41:00.005+01:00

Hello, hello !

Told ya, my intution never fails to serve me right, I knew id better check BZ for some 'new hilarious stuff' so i did so and of course, there was smth lol, unbelievable.

Warning : if you have no slightest idea what GNTM or Barbara Meier is, please spare yourself from reading this post :) Cause I dont want to explain too much and make it therefore too long, sorry. I can just say that Barbare Meier ( from now BM) is a second winner of Germany Next Top Model 2007.

I was a member of a german GNTM forum for a while and followed the show ( since I speak a few languages it was easy for me to do). And she was my fave and of course I was happy she won. So Right after she won I started a thread about BM on BZ forum ( where I already was a member and posted a lot)- it was in May 2007 I think... Since it was the very beginning, I was almost the only one who 'passionately' ( as you know me already lol) posted lile crazy to make BMs thread nice and active and support a model I like. With time or better said step by step other GNTM german forum members 'moved onto ' BZ ( since I posted stuffs that were not posted in GNTM forum) and became members there as well. With time the atmosphere there became bad. In what sense? In that sense that that 'newcomers' groupie from GNTM forum sticked to each other and totally ignores me as a member there and always thanked each other only for new stuffs and so on - sure who cares, you will say, reader, it happens. Yeah, it happens. May be Im the only one like that but the atmosphere , a nice one, not fake-nice, is important too. I dont demand that everyone immediately becomes friends there lol, of course not. But a little respect and being nice goes a long way. So anyways, it became so bad that I contacted a admin there ( not PC , but another one thanks god!) and told him about that and asked him to help me and close the thread I started and let all those 'fans' start their own thread then so they 'build it 'themselves and not on what I myself already created there. So I removed posts I could remove and he re-took the thread under his name, closed it and cleaned it and opened again with a warning ' to be nice to each other and keep a good atmosphere'. ( yeah prolly thats the only one admin there who was human). But he still left MY writing under 'Barbara Meier ' that shes gntm winner and a heart - thats the way I posted it originally. And ever since BM thread on BZ was 'taken over and ruled' by those fans. This is - so you know the roots.

Also, another thing. At the same time I started BZ thread on BM, I also started a model profile on her at fashionmodeldirectory (fmd) - created it, filled in size, nationality, etc, etc, etc. plus some pictures. But I didnt follow much how it went then, altho I know that one of BZ fans of hers 'is taking care of it as well' and he posted her fmd link on that german forum and everyone was ooohhh, thank you for creating it. LOL Right, I do smth and he gets all the thanks, whatever.

Finally, recently during BFashionWeek (31.Jan.-1.Feb.2009) a member of tFS (thefashionspot forum) posted a couple of small pix of BM and said she walked for SP. The turquoise dress came immediately familiar to me cause I know Ive seen a pic like that last year when she walked for SP. But oh well...you hope people who post there know their thing lol...So I went to SP homepage and on the homepage were runway pix and there was that turquoise dress pic too and another one of BM. So I capped those and posted on tFS.

Now, yesterday I checked BZ and BM thread there, I saw a 'true BM fan' there ranting :

LOL. How hilarious is that ! And what an honor, Im 'talked about there' , in a 'saint place'...Cause theres no doubt 'she' meant me as 'that member who says hes a fan of BM'. LOL

Honey-darling, let me tell ya,

- I NEVER said on tFS Im BM fan as you claim ( pls do find the post I 'said it' there, pls do). And second,
- tsk tsk tsk...as a 'TRUE BM fan' you should have known that its last years pic ASAP !!!! And not speculating and chewing on it for a long while as you did lol....shame on you ! Cause apparently youre a 'TRUE fan' so its unforgivable ! Since Im 'not a true fan' its okay for me to be human and mistaken thanks God.

And also, my sweetest, I 'love' how you jump into ummm... not so clever conclusions without even knowing first WHY that or this member posted THIS or that pic, may be HE or she thought smth too but didnt say it loud.

Ahhh well, what we can expect from a 'true fan' named 'Plain Jaine'...True, true, theres nothing but 'plain' there instead of any hint of common sense. What a great member name choice ! Well picked. Very fitting, honey, hands down.

So, you know what ( all that 'BZ fans gang' there - one is a 'incredibly handsome but dull' he/she/it member ( cause he/she/it is hiding his/her/it sex shhh!!! but everyone assumes its a HE lol) + an unhealthy passionatel fan ( you know, its understandable when someone is passionate as a fan about a model of same sex...but um, pardon me, THAT passion is sooooo much more lol, her posts sound soooo 'BM is mine and you all f*** off' kind...lol)+ that 'PJ' member from the above 'bz post' picture lol) , you all are more then WELCOME to get an invite for TFS and 'support BM thread there yourself' since you 'know it all so well'. Cause guess what, Im NOT gonna update her thread there at all.

Heck, I did so much, probably the only one who even cared to update and keep BM thread there on tFS and I stood up for BM when she was constantly 'attacked there' by 'haters' (where were these 'true fans' when BM was 'called bad names' on TFS, did 'these true fans' ever supported me or said a word in her defence on BZ as well ?? NO, they DIDNT) and I contributed as much as I could ( my scans were reposted on bz too btw lol and he/she/it even posted them at FMD - altho I did NOT allowed so since those are my scans from a mag I bought I deserve to say where I want them posted and where not.But nah, I wasnt asked.)

Instead of at least being THANKFUL that there IS a person on tFS who always updates BM thread there they just talk b****t and gossip about that member. Well that pretty much shows it all, what persons are all these 'true fans'.

Oh and btw some of them even joined my own forum too but of course NOONE ever botheres to post there at least one 'thank you' , not telling about any contribution. I did and do it all myself, alone pretty much. So you can leave my forum, I dont need you there since you dont do anything anyway. Ill take care of BM thread ( its not that I let my liking for her suffer from such 'fans of hers') but only in MY forum.

You would probably say, readers, hmmm...dont get, why if you ALL like the same model, why cant you all support her alltogether ? Right! Thats what I asked myself too but since there are more then one involved, you better ask 'those fans' as well as to why they dont do so and only can mob other BM fans and count 'their' BZ thread as 'best source for BM information' LOL...

Oh of course they are 'nice' to each other on BZ ever since that case described in the beginning, and they are 'nice' to a few 'new people' who recently joined them, but this is that dry fake 'niceness' , you know ? Its when someone tells you ' mmm youre so welcome sweeeetiiieee' and you just can feel how fake it is.

And most surely BM herself wouldnt like if she finds out how some of her 'true fans' act towards another fans of hers.

Thats all for now !

xx

ps. Those turquoise dress pictures and a couple more I got off SP website were actually never posted on tFS, regardless that walked for SP last year, so technically they are new and therefore I left them on tFS. But nah...'those BZ fans' never even think THAT much, all they can is jump at people and talk bad about them. They didnt even 'see' this. All they see is that 'someone is making a bad taste joke at poor them' LOL Good gracious, this is called 'medicine is helpless' in such cases for you, guys. I feel pity for you.

'Meeeh...she's 'commercial'' and 'mmmm Soooo High Fashion OMG!'

2009-02-01T23:23:00.011+01:00

Howdy again :)

So Ive been wanting to write a few words on that for a long time now and thought heck why not today while Im at it lol ! So here ya go...

Again, people who are into fashion and models probably will get me better but I dont set any limits, its for all thinking people with common sense :)

Ask anyone from tFS forum and they will tell you, yes its like that : 'high fashion (HF)' models are waaay more popular and loved there then so-called 'commercial'. Same about fashion and not-so-fashion companies and its ads.

Every member who thinks to know it all about 'real fashion' by ALL means at least once made a remark there : meh, she is that kind, you know, 'commercial' eeek...According such members commercial are ...actually some of my all time fave models ( Marisa Miller, Alessandra Ambrosio, partly now also Doutzen Kroes...) So no wonder ( although a total pity and a shame !) that for instance 'Marisa Miller' thread is not 'so super dooper popular' there then, say, of a 'oh so HF model Lily Donaldson'. Almost noone except for me ( obviously why i do that since Marisa is my number one always and forever, shes just ...!!! :))) and randomly a couple of 'my friends' who post there, almost noone else does. Okay, even 'my friends' may post to kind of support 'my model' since I do 'support ' theirs so thanks for that too lol. But aint it sad how it is with that commercial- HF dividing there...Maaaan....this is truly sad....

... And just so hypocritical !

Take Gisele Bundchen. Emotions apart, she did and is doing tons of commercial stuffs, but none calls her 'meee so commercial its not even funny' kinda model. Same goes for Hilary Rhoda, for instance who I immensely like and adore but she scored a cool deal with Estee Lauder ( come on EL is NOT HF okay...lol) and does catalogues nowdays too and models lingerie for ERES. But noone calls her 'meeeeh shes sooooooo commercial'. As if 'commercial' a something abusive nowadays !!!! Come on !

But 'poor' Doutzen Kroes ! As soon as she became a VS Angel, there was such a panic and absurdness in her tFS thread, some so-called 'fans of her' were whining and critisizing her and VS the 'harshest' words because of that lol... Of course, they want their models to be 'mmmm Sooo HF OMG' and earn just little money here and little money there but being 'OOOOOH so HF!' and make their 'fans' happy lol. Cause everyone in the fashion world knows that big money come with big campaigns, exactly - working with or for 'commercial' companies.

Lets see how one of the tFS moderators described commercial and HF :

Hmm, if we follow this logic, then ...Marisa Miller is ' OMG HF ' !!!! No kidding, people. Because Marisa was (and is) in many editorials ( she was in 'VOGUE' US too if it plays such a great role for ya !) and she did her fair share of the runway work too ! Yes, nowadays, she is 'mostly' known for her works with VS Angel and as SISE covergirl ( but its more then that) , so to be more exact she is ...BOTH : 'commercial' and 'high fashion'. Whether you like or not lol.

But nah...most tFS members dont even bother to think that over, they just curse ' oh gosh, shes commercial' and blindly adore their 'HF idols'.

Oh and dont even ask me what most tFS (I dont say all, there are surely a few members like me who see the WHOLE situation and are not fashion hypocrits lol but many many are...whaddaya want, its tFS after all ! ) say about famous 'Victorias Secret'. Ooooh, bro, theres a lot. LOL Starting with calling the company a 'piece of sh***' ( no, its not moderated there, you can say as harsh as you please lol) and 'only for celebs/commercial/crap/etc'. LOL Ahh boy, at least I totally get a kick out of such 'clever' posts.

I capped some 'clever sayings' of one of the members on that, I just had to, sorry, its too funny lol...my comments are in pink color :

(VS fashion show thread is started a month before the show and- what a surprise!- even 'true HF followers' check it oh so often and even post there lol hmm...and I thought its 'nothing but crap' lol)

So yeah, hypocrisy and idiotism is flowering on tFS in face of some members like the above one.

God, his posts dont even make any sense sometimes ! And this is not funny now. But luckily, as I always say, your posts speak about you louder then about the subject in your posts.

And as for VS, yes it HAS to do with fashion - IMO. Of course its not 'Prada' or 'Christian Lacroix', but :

~ they ONLY use MODELS to model their lingerie and clothing, swimwear, shoes, etc. ( alone for that I have a huge respect for VS, I am so sick of seeing celebrities stealing real models' work nowadays...)

~ VS invents new kinds of fabrics, new kinds of bras, there are new technologies and new lingerie design if you will

~ VS follows fashion (Ooooh so HF lol) trends in lingerie and clothing as well as shoes and all too and tries to create smth new themselves according the latest trends in fashion

~ And its undeniable that for ANY model ( HF or not) being casted for VSFS (vs fashion show) is HUGE and plays a BIG role for the models career and to deny that is simply plain dumb.

And just for those who dont know, to put it simple lol: 'commercial' models also said to be those pretty or beautiful models with healthy slim but curvy bodies who are making a nice sum of money and 'high fashion' models are those ugly (pardon me for this word), stick-thin, many with 'scary' faces models who are earning not so much money.

And before I make a full stop at that, isnt it sad that on such a huge fashion forum as tFS the majority of members has NO freakin idea that Fashion is NOT just 'ohhh so HF models and ooohh, verrsaaaccceee OMG! Vogue !' but all the 'commercial crap' - as they say- too ! Fashion is soooo much more then just a Gucci bag or a scary/plain/boring face of a HF model.

And with that, thanks for being with me and have a great week !

xx.

Unfair moderation or here we go (again) - on TFS !

2009-02-01T22:08:00.007+01:00

Hi ya readers !

I know youre surprised to see an update or the next post so soon lol. Well, I post as soon as I have smth to say on the theme /as soon as smth happens that makes me post, and no I dont do it on purpose cause my inner peace is very important for me too, believe me, I also wish I just could live and that others let me live too. But oh well.

Im sure if youre into fashion and models, you probably heard or even check one of the 'biggest' and 'well-known' fashion forums - thefashionspot ( tFS). What? You never heard of it as of yet? Good for you lol.

Anyways, I just have to make this post because this is getting ridiculous as far as 'moderating work' there.

You know after a long time I was able to get an invitation ( because its an invite only forum, and yes theres a pay-for option too (youll get more attachment space and etc.) as well, oh, and there are ads there as well, sometimes even pretty annoying ones if you dont block them). So, ever since I joined it Ive been an active quality member who not only posted 'thanks' or 'oh!' but I posted tons of my own high quality scans, my own cool screencaps and many other finds , pictures, videos, links, information. And still getting many karma points ( a kind of 'thank you' from members, you get so-called 'karma points' you can see in your profile) for my 'work' there.

But you know, one drop in the sea and youre like, okay, may be it happenes, moving on, closing eyes on that....But when there are quite a bunch of those youre like: what ? *shrugs* Moreso, if this is like this : they send you reminders on , say, for example, not to do this thing BUT at the same time you see on the left and on the right so many members do it and...are not 'being moderated' at all, voila ! Therefore Id like to stop at that in more details cause it starts to get on my nervers ( and its not so easy, believe me , I DO try to stay calm and peaceful until the ned where its just way too much of a bullshit.) already.

***So today I posted in 'Hilary Rhoda' thread this : 'Thank you for those !' ( that is: pictures). This post of mine was deleted and I got a reminder:

I decided to write back and send just a few of many examples where members post even less then that and that is few times in a row and - surprise, surprise!- their posts are NOT being deleted:

These are just the first few examples I came across - there are literally TONS more but hmmm I wonder why oh why THEY are not beind deleted , oopss, that is 'moderated'. Weird huh ?

Oh and as for the 'powerposting'...I already got one reminder on 'powerposting' a long time ago and I wrote back and they were kind enough to reply (back then) :

(I quoted a few members' posts in MM thread and replied to each of them and all my replies were deleted and thats 'powerposting' - rrrright, and that 'powerposting' I see happen in other threads too, for example in 'Is.F.' thread but nah, nothing is deleted there, weird huh)

But can YOU, people, may be tell me, why if I post an OCCASIONAL (meaning, I dont post just 'thanks' like others do, I provide tons of content most of my time there) 'thank you for these' gets deleted whereas constant 'thank you' posted by Other members are NOT being deleted at all ???? Can YOU tell me may be ??? Cause Id REALLY like to know. Not for any purpose, but just curious why its being 'moderated' in such a 'I have two truths, one for me and one for other' kind of way eh ? So some are allowed to 'powerpost' and some not. How interesting !!! AND I, oh naive me, thought that RULES are made equally FOR ALL ! Geeez...

And guess what, this time after I wanted to send them those above links with just 'thanks' examples, whoopss...they turned this option off already lol...

*** Now, as I had my first forum about VS Angels (Victorias secret angels, thats right!) and since I saw members having direct clickable links in their signatures to their own forums too on tFS, I put mine into my signature as well but a day later I had to remove it because I got this message:

So I did so of course.

But as always, what do we see...surprise, surprise!- there are STILL members who actually have direct links to their forums too in the signatures ! How about these two for example:

Again, 'some' oviously for whatsoever reason are 'allowed' to do so and 'some' for whatsoever reason are 'not allowed' to do so ! What a double-standard policy ! Im disappointed in you, tFS.

I would understand if there WERE reasons but just so , this always makes me throw up.... The double-standard thing that is. Moreso, if its 'forum rules for ALL'. Oh come on, really for ALL ?? I can see now how its 'for all' there.

And yes, I even reported one member because each time I saw his name with his forum link, it was like a red fabrics in front of the bull eyes, really unpleasant, so I reported it and mentioned, isnt it against rules to have forum links in siggies ? OF COURSE, NOTHING was done and he still has it ! Voila.

Oh, so may be its like that... a link to a fashion and models forum that is about VS models is NOT allowed but if its about a 'high fashion' model or 'high fashion' photographer, then its allowed ? Although in my forum we discuss 'high fashion models' too...hmmmm ANYONE here can give me an answer? lol Cause I dont get it there. And if theres no answer...well, you know, it only shows that Im right since they dont care to explain such things at all and prefer to just 'moderate' this member instead of 'moderating' all others as well. *rolls eyes*

***And btw, I cant invite anymore. Each member of tFS has a right to invite others to the forum so I invited 3 people. One because she wanted to be there so bad, so I did it for her, altho I dont 'know her or anything' she seemed to be a good poster on a different forum. Another one I invited is a 'friend' of mine from a different forum too so I hoped he would support our fave models threads there ( sadly he didnt, I could have spared that invite...) and third time I invited another person who also asked for invite in order 'to support her all time fave model there' so I helped her with that ( but she posted once or twice and thats that). Anyways, not a too long time ago I mentioned ( with a help of someone, who also noticed that herself first in her profile) that I cant find the invite link in my profile, it was just -poooofff !- gone. Weird huh. I know lol. So, I asked on a support subforum on tFS what could possibly have lead to that and was given a reply :

Hm, lets see :

- I didnt get any 'warnings', I only got a few 'reminders' so far (which is not the same thing as I was said or as it says in rules)

- I didnt follow all my invited persons history on tFS so I have no idea, may be THEY did smth horrible lol that led to that, I dont know. Can only say that with 2 of them, Im sure 90% that they never did anything 'against the rules' since they hardly even posted at all ! But oh well, may be its the first one I invited...I didnt see her post for a long while too.

So, I decided to ask a moderator there - I think I at least deserve to know WHY they taken invite rights from me. It cant be 'just so' or ' just because' or...can it ? Looking at the way some moderators 'moderate'there....everything can happen lol. But aint is ABSURD if its true ? Oh well, Im still waiting for reply, for a few days now. So hopefully they will tell me why, straight black on white, Id REALLY love to know ! And Im very thankful to a moderator who agreed to research on that and give me reply (thank you for that).

And you know, its 'amazing' how its 'allowed' there for many members to say literally 'bullshit' and totally 'absurdness' about fashion ( okay, they cant prohibit if anyones willing to show their dumb*** lol I understand..but still) or when so many members can post such really harsh words and post very inflaming and negative comments about models and sometimes even members...Brrr...I even had to find out a way to put some of such members onto my 'ignore list' cause you know, I come there to contribute good stuffs and to enjoy my fave models and check fashion news and not to read absurdness of certain members (who 'think they know it all about fashion and models' but in reality...sooooo far from it oh geeez...).

With that Im gonna end this post ( I have more to say while Im at it but Ill do it in a different post) otherwise itll get too long so ill spare you of that lol.

Thanks for reading!

xx.

ps. And yes, on MY forum harsh words or bashing is not allowed. Yep, Id rather have a 'kindergarten' if you will but with a nice friendly atmosphere to post in ( doesnt mean I cant say NO, if I dont like this model, we discuss it all , BUT in a respectful manner, thats the difference. Our members are nice and can actually act mature in most cases.) And believe it or not but our Forum Rules are made FOR ALL, even for admins and moderators too and for EVERY/ANY other member. As they say, business first, friendship second :)And although I do have 'friends' or members I like it doesnt meant that if they do anything against rules they wont be warned, they will and they are.Cause being fair is not just a word for me.

Heres to New Year 2009 and updates !

2009-01-30T23:37:00.012+01:00

Hi all,

2009 woohooo ! lol

Well, the year started just awesome - as you know I and some of my friends we came up with this idea of our very own forum, where WE are the team. And so far it goes great, Im very happy about it.

Those who have eyes, they will see and those who have ears they will hear the right things, those who dont have either or, well, dont bother to read this blog since it will do good neither you nor me.

A few hilarious updates as of late...

* PC is playing it 'EXTRA super dooper nice' on all forums she posts - Im glad I 'helped' to boost it lol, oh wait, its all fakeness, so theres really no need to boost it, theres NOTHING there behind the mirror anyway. But alas, many people are naive and eat whatever they are served to eat. Lucky YOU, who reads AND gets my blog right, you know the REAL THING about all the below written stuff. How you use this info, its up to you, reader. I dont get paid to tell all that obvously ( would be cool though !) and I do take risks that not all will see the point but Im a passionate forum girl who not only can post but also has a common sense, can be impartial and is not afraid to speak the truth. Truth hurts though so of course there will be tons of 'youre crazy' stuff but as I said, those who can see, they will see. And as for the rest, I dont care.

* Aint it funny how PC 'always' makes an extra note when posting some new VS pictures 'Originally found by A....' as if A... was THE photographer or THE founder of VS lol BUT at the same time PC takes a picture I got off VS , reposts it and ...doesnt credit me, surprise, surprise ! Aint it an additional point that proves that all I say is oh so true, she cant even give ME credits - of course.And at the same time always makes an EXTRA note of 'credit to anywhere else' and 'claims to always credit EVERYONE' - ah well, what can we expect from a person like that anyway lol.... Who likes being shown what a shitty personality one has ? Noone, right. Well, the morals are very simple : dont be a low mean person and you wont have to deal with bitter truth, thats all.

* Oh and referring to the above. I DO tag SOME VS pictures that I take my time to find on VS site - that are NOT officially on yet ( and some never are...) because of the above case of 'not crediting'. And today I read PC's 'clever words on how ridiculous it is to tag VS pictures because they are available for all yadda yadda'. Of course they are. Most of them that is. And guess what, I will CONTINUE taggin them and the main reason is that jerks like YOU dont bother to give credits to people who take their time to search for them. If its STILL unclear for you lol. Oh and if you dont like my tagged ones, feel free to search for them yourself.

* Sadly, I am not a frequent poster now at Marisa Miller's official forum - mainly because of the rotten stink of PC who posts there ( although she is not a fan of Marisa and thanks god she is not, brrr !). Really pity Marisa doesnt know about it, but oh well we have a person who is close to her who joined lvsm forum so theres a contact, in case they notice my absence :) But yeah, Id rather stay in a place thats nice and friendly ( not fakey-friendly as some) and where theres equal respect for all and a cozy atmosphere then to see PC's fake smiles, ah's and oh's and wheedling Marisa , Cartel-Meggie and some members who 'take her fake glitter for real'. At least its my 'credit' as well, that PC is being 'eeeeexxxtra nice' now everywhere ( of course, to 'prove me wrong' lol). But you know theres a niceness thats real and genuine and comes from ones heart and theres a fake niceness thats as sweet as throwing up.

* After I made some of my forum friends 'moderators' and 'admins', AFTER that our PC - drum rolls pls- makes one of 'her BZ forum' (where shes 'admin'lol) members to...a moderator as well ! Taadaamm! What a copycat. Yikies. Even there. I talk with a few members who are still on BZ and they say it came really unexpected for them cause that person didnt really 'earn' this title and there are better ones. But of course, he has smth that not all have...he can 'lick her....' and thats being 'rewarded' obviously lol. Cause Ive seen the 'talk' between them a while ago on bz. ( 'Oh Miss Pinks....'- 'Well done, my boy.') Hilarious. And the funniest thing ? PC never shows her REAL personal photos ( thanks god, because we at least can sleep and dont see nightmares) - its easier to 'keep a secret aura of being 'nice inside and out'' then to show whats really there. Do I show ? Yes, you can see my personal pix on tFS in my profile and on facebook. And I know someone with a shitty mean nature like PC cant be beautiful - because its in the eyes, as simple as it sounds, the true beauty comes from inside, its in the eyes too...People who lie never feel comfortable to show off their faces/to have others look into their eyes, never. Okay, I got a bit carried away here, back on topic.

So yeah, Ive been a member of BZ for a long time and I saw her being a member, then a moderator, then an 'admin' and PC never was ' just so caring and nice' as she tries to come off now lol. Guess why !

* Yes, Im still on the fashion spot forum and Im promoting Marisas thread there or at least try to (sadly, its not popular there regardless...Most people of TFS are into 'High fashion models' and have many prejudices...I could write a separate post on fashion and models later...we shall see...) and I gladly do it in my own forum of course and its very satisfying to see how often its being updated there and how it all is taken a good care of. ( Thanks, my staff team and all members of lovevsmodels -escpecially the active and quality members :))

Next time Im gonna post about one of my favorite models....just feel like Im ready to say a few words on that lol...cause it was summing up for a long time now...

About 'comments' - I am sorry but due to technical issues all comments for the previous posts are lost - I usually just click 'select all' and 'publish' just like with all previous posts here I did but I did so today and they are not up yet which is weird to say the least. And no I dont delete them myself, cause its not like I didnt publish 'only bad ones and good did' - ALL of them are lost :( So yeah thats the only case now, Ill try to contact blog support.

Hopefully next time there are comments they wont be lost like that.

But keep it in mind when posting any comments - the written word is heavy. What you say and THE way you say something about someone or something speaks louder about you then about that someone or something.

Thanks for reading and stay well !

xx.

ps. Yes, Im that passionate about forum and take it that close to heart. Its tons of my time being invested in all that after all and if I do smth I like I give 100% of me. So yeah, whereas most dont care at all, I do. Otheriwise I wasnt here.

ps.1 I dont write to 'add a bad reputation' to my favorite models or fave forums ( like my own forum or like tFS). In fact, as a model Id be only proud to have such fans who truly care.

ps.2 No, I cant jump very high and I seriously suck at some things I dont deny that BUT among other things I rock at and I know I just have it - my fantastic intuition ( being a 'scorpio' with ascendant in 'scorpio' must have smth to do with it as well lol) that never fails to serve me right and a very good knowledge of people. Call it XRay if you will. I have no idea why the described below happened to me ( oh yes I do but you wont get it anyway) - may be Im a 'catalyst' in a way, laugh at it or not...You can do whatever you want but I am the way I am and never play someone Im not, yes its not 'good for life' but its the way it is and inspite of anything i do stay objective and impartial and give you all information the way it is. Yes, in my point of view, but you are welcome to prove the opposite, if you can of course, based on valid proves, not on just words.

ps.3 Yes, of course Im still 'banned on bz' - for no reason, just so because someone doesnt like to know the truth lol- in fact, Im even 'banned from guest view only' lol ( wow, so they fear me THAT much, incredible huh ! I know ! lol) - I still find a way to check it rarely to check if my stuffs are being credited and well, to see what 'new and clever' some members say again ( like PC, VH and some others who already 'caused a stir' with their 'amazingly clever posts' lol) For some reason I just feel when I should check it - and voila, each time there is a 'masterpiece' waiting for me.

Update, everybody ! "Pink"Couture", BZ and More !

2008-12-04T12:07:00.018+01:00

Hey readers !

Hope ya'll been doing good. Thought id update ya as of Dec 4, 2008.

Ive been busy with my own forum (yay!) and its tons of fun and I learnt a lot :) and yep, Im admin there and literally spent and spend tons of time to create it all there myself...from the background to forum ideas and all, technical stuff and well as moderation stuff and all. But I have a good team with me too who are of a great support as well ! Maaan it does feel good to have a cool forum with cool members and staff members who can actually act mature, fair and respectful. We dedicated it to 3 main models - 3 favorites of each of staff members : Marisa, Alessandra, Doutzen. But everyone is welcome to join and show some loving for the model they love !

Back on topic though !

Since I post some good stuff as a member on TFS (thefashionspot) and FMT (Marisa Miller's official forum) and on my own forum and on AAOF (Alessandra Ambrosio official forum) I very often see my goodies reposted on other forum - like bellazon (BZ) , that is 'famous' for many of its members not crediting properly and only reposting stuff from other forums- many, not all, but many. Plus, from the below posts you can only understand why I dont want my stuffs reposted in a *** place like BZ.

Recently I checked it and saw someone took the picture(s) I posted on AAOF and reposted them in VSFS thread on BZ. So I contacted that person and asked to show little courtesy if he reposts my stuffs found on AAOF and credit either me or AAOF properly. But after that guess what lol...'PinkCouture' moved the VSFS thread to a 'protected from guests' forum so that 'guests' cant check it out - lol.

The other day a member again reposted my video link that I posted originally in my forum , he reposted it in BZ without giving credit either me or my forum, so I again had to point that out.

You know I spend much of my personal time trying to find and create good stuffs ( pictures, caps, vids, gifs, etc.) and of course giving credits doesnt cost much time, its a little common courtesy. So anyways, after that...guess what ? lol 'Pinky"Coutue"' closed my guest access to BZ so that I 'cant check my stuffs there anymore' - LOL... This is just so pathetic. I already 'was banned' for nothing there but did check as a guest rarely to see if my stuffs are credited properly there but now she had that 'smart idea' to ban my 'guest IP' as well- LOL.... Our 'babe' loves to play kindergarten I see. As if its 'gonna prevent me from controlling my own stuffs there' ! In fact I already found a way so all your efforts are pathetic and only to laugh at ! geee....

But Im gonna put in my signature in forums where I post and ask not to repost my finds on that shitty BZ forum at all. Especially on TFS - since some members from BZ looove to repost TFS goodies on BZ - in fact they made Doutzen Kroes' thread on bz a weak copy of TFS- because almost each posts in BZ is a copy from TFS. Meeehhh....

Oh and you dont have to worry so much about 'your precious BZ access for me', my lovely 'Pinky' - Im NOT interested in such a shitty forum, I check it only to control my stuffs that YOUR members post there all the time ! Tell them NOT to repost my goodies from other forums and you dont have to 'ban my IPs' anymore lol...easy as that !

That was so awesome when you, "Couture", were away from all the good forums like TFS, FMT, AAOF - maaan...noone even noticed your absense but me since it felt immediately much better without you! Since that fake 'niceness' was finally gone out of all forums. You really dont have to post anywhere, why dont you stick to your BZ forum ? Please do. Really, that will be very nice of you at least that one time really really nice. Ill even mention that here if you do LOL...

In the meanwhile I still get messages from TFS members and others on my blog and all described below. Good and refreshing to see that. Some asked me not to post their messages here so I wont do that but I really want to post at least some of many. From my TFS profile:

So regardless of how 'fakey nicey' 'Pinky"Couture"' is gonna be in any forum where I post actively Im just gonna ignore her - not because Im not nice but do you still need an explanation after all I wrote here ? I dont think you do. Never had any respect for such 'people' and will not have any. Ill let other 'eat it up' and 'stay naive and judge by the cover'....hopefully they wont be shocked much if one day they see 'more then the cover'.

And just a few words to add...I just have to say to stay impartial and objective, to show that I dont only post all the brutal truth but I can appreciate good things too, regardless where they come from --- Avadakedavra and Lullaby gave me posting permissions back on AAOF so yay I can post there ! Not that it changes much though - as far as forum itself goes. I talk to many members from there and they all say its 'not the way it used to be, its dead'. But it still was nice of them and that should be said.

Came across this :

' Thanks to my enemies - you make me stronger, thanks to my friends - you make me better, thanks to everyone else who doesnt care - you here for quantitiy anyway'.

And if you are here and reading this, thanks to you too :)
xx.

Stay well !

ps. Im very glad 'Pink""Couture""' didnt win the moderator contest in AAOF ! Right on ! Her 'nominee speech on 'being fair and respectful to all members and always replying to them' was such a bull*** pure ! She dares to post that there and at the same time acts the opposite all the time ! Ugh. What a two faced person.

My congratulations to the right person who won ! <3

'Pink"Couture"' and more - an update !

2008-11-03T16:31:00.010+01:00

Hey all,

Thought Id split the post below since its a long one and put all the updates in a new post. Updates as of Nov1-3, 2008.

Nov1, 2008 - so-called 'Pink"Couture"' (if you are a bellazon,fashionmodeltalk,aaof,tfs member you know that name Im sure lol) after 6 days since she all of a sudden took my posting permissions in bz off , after she ignored all the PMs I sent to her to find out why , I was 'officially banned' there, just som because 'Her 'Majesty queenie aka miss know it all' aka 'Pinky' wanted it lol ! More on how it happened and all please read in the post below. So beware, when you see her posting 'Matty (Betty, Katie, insert your name), blah blah blah, thank you blah blah' and think what a'nice and humble cover' , better try to take a deeper look before this 'lovely Pinky' sticks a knife into their backs too without any logical reasosn and acting low and disrespectful.

This is a screencap I took once I saw 'Im banned' - this would have been hilarious if it wasnt so shabby and rude:

I do talk with a bunch of members from bz, tfs and aaof and all of them were 'shocked' to see me 'banned in bz' - I guess it speaks for itself too.
During these few days I got a few feedbacks from different members who read this blog, even the ones I didnt know/talk to before.
Id like to show what they said - for privacy reason I wont show their member names but thank you all for your support and understanding, its refreshing to see that not all thinking people are 'dancing to her fake music':

This:

And this:

Funny, I checked today the most recent message Marisa posted in her official forum and wow, not only PC is 'not a couture' lol but she also is a copycat ! In her reply to that message she totally copied me - what I loooong time ago was telling in all forums - that Marisa is so versatile and how I wish she did more of totally different editorial stuff. Now, PC never said that until today hahah...Ok well, may be she just woke up who knows lol.Better later then never to realize that I guess lol.

Its really getting old how she 'ignores' stuff I post lol and just cant put up that there are other members who know a lot if not more on 'her stuff' like VS or MM, for instance .Its not even a 'kindergarten', its just a piece of crap. But so many naive members eat it all up, all that 'fake niceness' she creates and dont even suspect what the reality looks like. Thankfully there are other people too who can see way beyond that cover. After all that bull*** in Marisa's thread over at thefashionspot she reached her goal - for a while I didnt even feel like posting to support Marisa there at all - it just felt yucky to see PC name there, eeek. But I will keep it nice and active, Marsia, because I am true to myself and a loyal fan of yours too :) I know you would understand it and you would be on the right side.Hey thats also why I like you so much :)

Oh and btw,I remember Marisa in one of her recent interviews said that she is not catty or competative when it comes to girls and how she likes to lift them up instead of putting them down. Well, Marisa, I wish you knew how this 'snake' in a 'nicey Pinky' cover treats your most true and loyal fans behind the backs !

Such people/admins are even worse then Lullaby and Avadakedavra I talked in my previous posts. Damn I give the latter two props and kudos for at least talking to me and trying to get me to PM them for 'getting posting permissons back' - I mean, although all that crap was poured on me out of the blue moon - at least they didnt ignore that and were ready to talk. But unlike them PC just bans good members on bellazon (where she was just recently given an admin authority lol - ahem...*fantastic choice*- this way there wont be any good members left on bellazon at all soon if she bans them so easily for her own unlogical reasons lol), yep, so she just bans good members without any explanation or warning whatsoever , just ignores members' posts posts to enjoy 'that they cant change it or stop that' and then poof, bans ! So thanks, A. and L. that you let me keep the link to my blog in fashionmodeltalk, I appreciate that even if it may sound weird. I value good things and any good gestures a lot regardless of who they come from. But I wont let anyone treat me or others as ***. Thats all.

And what a hypocrite this 'Couture' is ! On the inside she just bans for nothing and disrespect people and on the outside - check those lines in her signature ' Please PM me if you want an issue to be solved ASAP' Hahahahahahahaha.... Oh come on, really ??? LOL Must be a joke huh? Only she forgot to mention that she will ignore those PMs anyways so in fact, members, dont even bother or she will just ban you ! Geee...

Its ok I guess to 'create a fake internet reputation of a nice and humble person' and to get a sick satisfaction and boost for your self esteem or all the 'drooling over' if you dont have it in real life but being a jealouse, envious and totally mean person and treating others as *** is seriously wrong. No matter how 'nice' your fake fame is truth will come to the light eventually no matter how hard you try to 'hide your true self'. Niceness based on meaniness like that wont last long.

So I want you all, guys, know that 'PinkCouture' 'gets rid' of members who she sees as 'better' then she is because they have smth that she doesnt have - honesty, dedicaton, respect of others, intelligence, great looks ;) And as far as she got her admins authority on bz she can easily just ban them, just because - pooof, they are gone and she can enjoy her 'spotlight' and 'slaves' that are still left by her again and be 'happy' and never has to' worry' . Real niceness and intelligence doesnt cry loud for attentions like hers do.

As for the update on AAOF (Alessandra Ambrosio official forum)...Well, I hear so often how old time good members dont post there anymore because its just a mess as they say and is not a welcoming atmosphere there. Even Ale doesnt bother to check and post there anymore as she did before, I can understand her....AAOF reminds me now of a dead body that is thrown for those huge ugly predators to fly there and get a piece of it , that smell attracts them - no wonder PC and 'some other double-standard people' posting more often there these days since the Nomination for a new mod was announced there. Just check who posts there...Lots of people who came from bellazon. Now, members, ask yourselves - and where are those good old time members and great atmosphere we used to have before ? Its all gone. No wonder. Similarity attracts similarity.

I am currently busy with a forum that me and another 3 people created - Victoria's secret angels forum. I will stop on it in my other post may be. But it already feels awesome being able to 'work on my own and for my own' then for those who not only fail to appreciate good things and good people in life but act really low just because they do so. As an admin in that new forum, I, for one, will be glad to see such members as I was in bz - those who contribute so much to the forum, scan, make awesome caps, know news and information, are friendly and nice ! Dang, Id be only happy since it spares my time too and such members are still pretty rare - after all it takes A LOT of dedication and passion to contribute so much and spend so much of ones personal time for free, for smth that doesnt even pay the bills !

Regards and thanks for stopping by ya'll,
xoxo Julia

'PinkCouture' doesnt show her personal photos but she shows her true self !

2008-10-31T21:34:00.020+01:00

Hi readers !

No, I dont have any news on aaof ( although I must say they are nominating 2 more new moderators there now, but I doubt it will bring back that active and nice forum as it was before ).

I would never ever even think that I will HAVE to add another admin to that list ! But facts are facts and the reality is reality whether you like it or not.

If you are/were a member of 'fashionmodeltalk' or 'bellazon' or 'thefashionspot' or 'aaof' forums, you have probably saw/heard about 'PinkCouture' (PC), right ? Well, so did I. Tell ya more, I even praised her and appreciated her being so 'nice and she posts rather frequently too'.If someone else told me all that I wouldnt believe - Are you kidding?? Her?PC? The 'sweetest humbliest thing ever'??? Yep. I wouldnt believe it either probably at first if I didnt see and experience it all myself during a long period of time which I did.

Unlike other immature admins who bash other models but their fave in their own fan forums and other forums rather openly and 'straight into your face', this one creates an image of 'being nice and helpful' on the cover whereas on the inside its all rotten and mean too.

Ill be honest here as always - although I stayed nice, polite and appreciative of PC at all times, innerly there was smth wrong there that rubbed me the wrong way for a long time now. There were little signs, but recently I guess 'the bowl got FULL' and I am here, writing this.

She does not show herself as a fan of any model in particular, shes rather neutral about any and all. She recently became an admin in BZ forum and she also is an admin in MMC. Never does she fill in her profile on forums as to where she comes from, nor does she show her photo (both understandable of course). In fact, people even dont know her real life name.And many forum members are pretty much open and like to share pictures n stuff. But back on topic.

As she said herself, she liked to 'post pix of models if those pix make models' fans happy'.How nice, aint it ? :) Yep, thought so too! Untill today.

Five days ago on BZ I as usually checked 'Marisa Miller' thread to post there and surprise! I honestly thought my eyes are deceiving me, it said 'Your posting permissions were removed'. I was like HUH? After that I got a PM from her saying :

I sent her reply same day and said that yes, I remember a looong time ago I did create a second account -just in case. But since I never used it to post nor do I use it now I dont even remember the password for it so if its considered 'multiply accounts' then go ahead, delete it cause I only use the current and the only one since the registration on BZ day. She did NOT reply to my message.

During the next five days I did not post in BZ and today I stopped by to post and- surprise!- I still (!) dont have my posting permissions back:

Hows that??? Um, excuse me, I PMed you same day and if you ignore it and still didnt give me posting permissions back, well...tell ya what, enough is enough !

So, think tiwce before you say something nice about PC. Not all gold that glitters.

How disappointing indeed.

I mean, come on, if I was a severe spammer or like, had 1000 multiply accounts, didnt contribute as much to the forum, okay, that might be the reason. But like that, just because??? And all that ignoring ?

And how about signatures? I was asked to change my signature because it was too long according bz rules:

I did so. But after I did so, all next days I paid attention and saw so many members having really huge signatures and nothing is being done there. Hows that??? So, some members are 'not allowed' to have 'big signatures' and others are allowed ????Here are just a couple I came across:

My question about that was sent to her too and it was also ignored.

This is really dangerous when someone like PC has 'admin' priviliges that she can obuse just so, just because, for her own inner reasons. Shame on you, dear.

Oh and guess why she doesnt 'ban me' but just took 'posting permissions' away ??? Well, if I were banned the word 'banned' was written under my avatar so Im sure MANY members would have asked then whats up and what happened since its absurdness pure and I posted a lot of good stuffs there but nah, 'we wanna continue play all goodie goodie and behind the scenes treat members poorly' But of course, all others should think nothing happened and its just me 'who doesnt post' and not because ' shitty admin took permissions away for no reasons' and thats why I dont post. LOL How smart of you dear indeed I dont even have to send bad karma your way - you did it yourself. Get ready to pay for that.

Ok now lets get back to where we started and speak a few words about Marisa Miller.

Its known what a huge fan of her I am and I like to know how people started to like MM just because of me. I got tons of examples. Even in new to me tFS forum I already was said that, like in this comment on my profile and points given to me there:

Okay, that also just words but those who know me they know that for a fact. Not because I 'come off as such', its just the way I am.

But some people - cough PC cough- dont want to share. Nor do they get that there are people besides 'her Majesty' who also know a lot of insider info on MM and also have connections with someone close to her. As I said during all that long time there were so many cases that were a warning sign as far as her 'real true self' goes (PC). Here is the most recent example of that from today, fmt forum. A member asked a question, I replied to it but naaaah...MSKNOWITALL aka PC came by and HAD to reply again , basically repeating what I already said earlier. LOL Isnt it pathetic ????? Grow up. Youre 28 you said, well honey, the way you act you are WAY underage.Its high time to get finally that NO, you dont have to reply to a question if it is already replied, you dont have to repeat it and you are NOT the only one who can do that, believe me. There are many people who know the stuff too. But 'we wanna be quieenes , dont we ?':) How immature !

Or take that another example... Some MM fan found out that her picture is being used by a dating site and posted that. I dunno whats that lol but I again happen to be there earlier then PC and I saw that message and send it to that close to MM person I have a contact with and he said thank you and that they will take care of that ASAP. PC reads that too, later some time, but unlike me, she claimes in forum - I 'took care of this and let MM people know about it' and everyone goes like ' Oooooh, you are MM reputation saver, PC, youre the best !' LOL.... Hilarious aint it. And she is not even the biggest fan or anything. This time I did post - yeah, well done , only in fact I did that long time ago already:) lol Only that though I know a lot on VS in particular too but I post my stuff quitely and surely not shouting it loud to everyone like you do crying and striving for attention.

But (drum rolls pls!) she saw MM live ( lol, oooo this is huge !) therefore she 'knows her personally'. Geee...no comments. I dont think that Marisa is gonna like if I tell her how PC always steps into my way once she notices how active I get in MM threads trying to promote them a lot more then she does ( but hey youre not a fan so why you care ???). Or how PC takes my posting permissions away for nothing thus of course how am I supposed to promote/post/support MM ? Oh okay, PC is soooooooo 'awesome', she doesnt need anyone else to be in that place but her and only her. How old are you again ?? 28?? LOL Really ???? Too bad because times flying away but your development stopped a long time ago. Oh and btw, during that time youve been a member on tFS (few years longer then me) you didnt promote Marisa's thread there as much and actively as I did in my short time of being there what was noticed by members and they started to stop by it more often. But of course, 'queenies dont like that'- how dare anyone steal PC's spotlight ????? LOL You are so incredibly immature and rotten. Now thats finally something close to the truth eh? Not like all those 'OMG, youre the best, PC', 'You know it all best of all, PC' or ' Marry me PC, you are so nice'! Well not ALL members dance to your music, honey.It would have been funny if it wasnt that sad.

Another thing... PC is 'friends' with 'Lullaby' and 'Avadakedavra' from aaof so one can suspect that after the reputation of the latters leaves much to be desired and I even dared to post about that in my blog here, she kind of 'wanted to punish me for them' - therefore all that absurd 'taking posting permissions' on BZ where she is an admin. My lovely, it aint even your business, sweetheart. And if this is really true, then you are one of the shallow minded, meanest, dumbest persons I ever saw. Incredible huh.

I have my personal profile pictures in tfs and I had one in BZ before and I know how I look - modesty aside- now why doesnt PC show her photos ???? Many members do. Noooo, she loves to create a 'mysterious look' about her, let them all silly people think she is their hottest fantasy and at the same time cotninuing to keep her 'humble ' reputation she tries to object ' Ah no, Im not that pretty, believe me'. Well, I BELIEVE YOU, PC !! You really must be waaaay far from being pretty.With such a shitty soul one cant be truly beautiful and intelligent on the outside. But let them continue drooling over your 'image', you LOOOOVE having all that 'fame', 'slaves', 'admirers' because you apparently lack that in real life a lot, poor thing. I really feel sorry for you. And here on the internet you can 'create a nice image' and everyone ( but a few ) is going gaga over it. And you love that. It boosts your self esteem so well. Ill let you enjoy your 'fame' lol...Ill let YOU post and show 'your Marisa love' in all the forums, come on, its YOUR time, finally noone will stand in the way. Im glad it helps you to feel yourself soooo 'important'.

But as one of my fave models said ( Miranda Kerr) : ' Its nice to be important but its more important to be nice'.

So think twice everyone and right now it goes to AAOF members as well, those few who nominate her as the new mod there 'because she posts stuffs and is nice'. Ask yourself, is she a true ALE fan ???? No, she is not. To make someone a mod just because she posts now and then ( not even every day) and created an illusion of 'being nice' are the last reasons to consider when it has to do with Ale, being here for her and her forum and fans.

Regards,
xx

PS. As one old time member in tFS said today to me about AAOF situaton ( that surprisngly fits BZ too!):

I dont have anything to add to this. Her actions speak for themselves.

Yep, 'avadakedavra' and 'lullaby' still keep me blocked for no reason !

2008-10-07T20:35:00.012+02:00

Hey all !

I havent been updating my blog since when? Since June now ! Wow. Since that time I was lucky to get an invite ( thanks T. !) to the one and only thefashionspot.com forum ( love it!) where I post nowadays and sometimes I post on bellazon.com forum as well.I do check Marisa's offical fashionmodeltalk forum only for Marisa and exclusively in her subforum.

Today I logged into AAOF ( Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum) to leave a comment for a member there who I came across the other day on the big internet and found out that she reposts practically everything from AAOF without any credting, so she resized my huge scan of Ale so that my tags are not readable. Anywhoo, I logged in to do so, clicked to leave a comment and ( surprise, surprise!) , what do we see ? ' You do not have permission to leave comments'. See the screencapture I did immediately, check the date too:

So... lets see, I dont have a permission to post there, I dont have a permission to leave comments, I dont have a permission to start threads ( read the very first post in this blog to know how it all began), the thing is, the above named 'ahem'...admins still keep me blocked from posting in Ales official forum and still wait for me to fall onto my knees in front of them and send them a private message ( since its the ONLY thing I 'am allowed' to do there now and that is what they told me I 'would have to do' via one of my friend on the forum who asked them why I am blocked since I cant post ). Isnt it absurd ???? Come on, if they were truly over it and wanted me to forgive them for all unfair and unjustified bashing they would have unblocked me right away, but nah, they wanna play queenies of the world and set their own rules for all and everyone which they dont have to follow. So sending that private message will make them feel or so powerful - guess what, you will never get it from me. I did not send you any PM behind others' backs and will NOT do so even if I have to stay away from Ale's forum now. Luckily I found greater forums where I am valued and respected and am active as I always am.

For over 5 or 6 months now those admins 'block' me from posting in Ales official forum that they run ( and not so good I must say - especially after all that thing described here in my earlier posts took place. Toooons and I mean tooons of off topic talks in the threads they dont belong to, tons of reposts, yickes!) and they took all my member permission off for absolutely no reason since I did nothing that could have caused first my bashing, then 'my blocking'.

I hope someone who has connections with Alessandra or her friends, will kindly ask her to tell those 'immature and narrow-minded' admins-'queens' to unblock me and give me all my member permissions back. I hope she is grateful since I was one of the first people who invested tons of my private time and efforts in restoring her forum after it was hacked and who was an active member and kept her forum nice and friendly with tons of quality posts.

So yep, this is the update ! Which is on the whole nothing new since the 'beat goes on'.

The only thing I am sure about is that karma will get back at these two. They will suffer. I tell you. Either way or another. This wont come unpunished. By life, by God, by themselves, whatevers.

Thanks for checking this out, guys !

xx

ps. Id like to thank all those members in AAOF who keep 'Marisa Miller' thread there active and keep posting there - thanks guys !

How Alessandra Ambrosio loses her true fans' support in her official forum because of the admins' actions there.

2008-06-04T10:01:00.007+02:00

Hi readers!

Thought Id update since its been a while now after I made my last post.

As far as I am not able to post in Alessandras official forum because admins like to bash and ban active long time members there for no reason and abuse their powers, I do not post there anymore.As well as some other members who could themselves whitness the 'real work admins do' which I described in my previous posts.

From what other members say people do post there but it is by far not active and nice as it used to be. I keep in touch with some members in a different forum, this is what 3 members from AAOF say on that:

(jvsjvs - is my members name in that other forum)

I think now I can say a bit more on that too since I waited long enough for the reply but did not get any - an owner of Media Tropics , the company that owns AAOF, contacted me and offered me his help in this matter which I thought was very human and nice of him. I sent reply and described exactly what has been going on in the forum, with all the proves, honestly and objectively and thanked him for contacting me and trying to help.

Unfortunately since two weeks now he did not reply.I understand we are all busy but it does make a different impression...

Alessandras manager was also contacted by another member from AAOF and informed about the situation.

Too bad the sutuation is not being taken as serously as it is by those who are able to change it and make it better. I took it close to heart but that is because:

-Alessandra is my second fave model and I would love to support her as much as I can in her official forum,
-this is totally unfair and immature ( to put it mildly) of admins to treat members who contribute so much to the forum ( read: photos, their arts, videos, etc.)the way I described in my previous posts and do 'whatever they want whenever they want' just because they have a 'delete' button and can get rid of anything and anyone in the forum,
- I was insulted and called rude names, bashed for absolutely no reason which is in the very least disgusting, moreover that it happens in the forum of a model I like and where I contributed so much and invested so much of my private time,
- this is not the first and single time of such admins behaviour but each time they 'clean the tracks' and come off as 'clean and innocent' but members leave the forum...

This is not minor.It sure is not the whole life thing but come on, its pretty serious since its been happenning on a regular basis.

But as of today there have been no measures taken as to stop or change the sutation for the best for Alessandra and for her members and fans. It is very disappointing and a shame that her managers and the forum owners let admins act so grotty, low and totally unprofessional and disrespectful towards Alessandras true fans and members therefore towards this model too.

If that is how it is, then it is on your conscience.

Me and those members who tried to help did all we could to be able to stay in the forum and support the model we all like and keep it in a friendly atmosphere but as long as there are such admins nothing will be changed. I may leave, another members may leave the forum, new will come, sure, those who dont know the real state of things there, they have no idea unless admins repeat it again- which they will sooner or later after they are tired of pretending 'goody to shoes' now to 'prove me wrong'. As I said, too late since they already proved me oh so right with all steps they took, with that behaviour which not only I could whitness but other members too.

Whatever, karma will get back at you one day, no doubts about it. You will be treated the way you treated me and others.Oh and those 'philosophical wisdoms' you like so much to put into your signatures only show what kind of persons you are - not that thoe 'wisdoms' even can help you a little bit - this is just too hilarious.Knowing now how you can act and seeing those things - LMAO, shame on you.

Regardless, your reputation will never be 'crystal clear' again since I put the link to my blog in every forum now to let ALL people know how admins really manage the official forum of Alessandra Ambrosio and how they bash members for nothing and delete anything and everything to do with truth.

So yeah, this is ths state of things as for today.

Kindest Regards,

xx.

ps. On a different note, I was finally invited to tfs (thefashionspot) - thanks to one special member in bz ( thanks sooooooo much!).

Update on: How admins really act in the official forum of Alessandra Ambrosio.

2008-05-16T17:47:00.019+02:00

Hello, reader !

Thank you for taking your time and reading my blog.

So, since my first post here (April 27, 2008) until today (May 24, 2008) the described in the earlier posts situation is still actual.

For those who dont have time to read the very first post: Ive been a loyal ,active, friendly and respectful long time member in Alessandras forum (AAOF) and did not do ANYTHING that could have caused admins act the way they do that is banning me from posting in the forum for over weeks now, taking away from me my member 'permission' to post in the forum, to start new threads, to edit my signature settings, to leave comments in my own and others' profile(s). Admins abuse their 'privileges' and treat me ( and other members) rudely and disrespectfully which is not the way to manage the forum.

Yesterday I checked another forum where these two are admins as well - fashionmodeltalk (FMT) . (The link to my blog and post that had to do with the blog -was deleted weeks ago because admins always delete everything that can show 'this side' of them that they try to keep hidden from all - more on that plus proves and screencaps in previous posts so Im not gonna repeat it all over here again.) I tried to change my signature there to a new signature I created using Marisa pictures( Marisa Miller is my fave model, Alessandra is my second fave model) and it worked. I tried to post there and it worked too.

Now, in front of all of you who read this blog, lets make an experiement. Members -those who want- add link to their pages, like fan sites or blogs, whatever - in their signatures. In fact, admins themselves have such links in their signatures.In FMT such links are visible only for the members of the forum. Heres one of the admins signatures with a bunch of links, see the arrow:

Im gonna add my blog link into my signature as well. I have just did that and here is the screencapture with my signature and date and time:

NOW, lets see how long will my blog link last in there or better said, how fast admins will delete the link to my blog , proving once again that all I tell here in my blog is TRUE and they avoid letting members know about it by using one of their fave ways , that is just deleting it. Or are they going to take my 'permission to edit/change signature' in FMT as well - just like they did in Ales forum ? Lets all see. I will update as soon as I check back on it.

---> Update on the 'experiement' (or 'test' if you will) as of May,18,2008. I have just checked it as promised and the link to my blog is still there. Of course, admins must have bookmarked my blog now since they comment on it and read it and now 'try to prove me wrong' (with the signature test) but its too late because they already proved me right many times before.

And on the current state of things - I was informed by a friend that the owner of Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum contacted me there so I went ahead to check it. It was refreshing to see such a message and thank you very much for contacting me. I hope you will get my reply that I sent you and may be even check this blog.

There was also a message from one of the moderators. A while ago I contacted one of the moderators in AAOF and asked why 'my member permissions' were gone all of a sudden and if that mod can help. This is what I got as reply:

Honestly, I was a better opinion of that moderator but oh well, it only shows that not all moderators are capable to do their work either. But thank you for reply anyways. Not that it had sense or was helpful as youd think it should be coming from a moderator. Sad that even some mods have 'fear' to try to help someone and to think and act independently. And I dont care whether 'they are good persons' or not, because I dont know them in person - as well as they dont know me - ALL I know is that they are abusing their admins powers and bash members for nothing and this story is NOT THE ONLY ONE. And ALL explanations and proves and OTHER members' opinions on that , its all being mentioned here in my posts. Those who actually can think, will understand.

And even if I leave the AAOF and wont post there again, there will be other stories like that in the future, with other members. It lies in their characters I guess which wont and cant be changed. No matter what they do or say. If people mix their own issues and problems with the job they do and use it as a reason to 'punish' others to make themselves feel better, make conclusions.In no way I want to say how these admins really are as far as anything personal as ,say, their inner emotions or motivations are concerned , but they themselves show that they might just have problems with seeing how someone is more lovable ( I say it for instance, or more approachable or better in something) then they are and have difficulties with accepting it or/and learning from it. I also have friends who in some things are better then I am but hey thats cool, I respect them for that, they are good here, Im good there. Its life.And I dont start to 'pick on' someone just because he or she is better in some things then I am. But if someone thinks way too much of himself and comes off as mean and takes 'thank you' for granted....well, nothing we can do.In over a year of my being a member in two forums managed by them I hardly saw a simple 'thank you, guys' coming from them. Or a plain 'welcome'.Sorry for offtop though, but hey, thats why I have my blog where I can have my say. I dont expect anyone to fall on their knees in aw or anything. Those who read it, comment if they feel like. Those who dont care and dont wanna read it - I dont care too , I dont write here for you. So yeah, as long as they are admins nothing will change. They must be off forum since they cant do their job. Ideally, from both forums, AAOF and FMT. And even if they stay their reputation ( unfortuantely also Ales rep in some way) will suffer. Not that I had to do anything for that, they did it all themselves. And if we talk technically, I promote Marisa and Ale anyway I can, by posting best pictures of them, by supporting their forums, be telling people about them. And now I can not do that in these two forums. Technically it means the admins damage the interests of these models.

Whatever guys. I did all I could and if no measures are taken then do whatever you feel like.You can laugh now but good laughs the one who laughs last. End of offtop.

And on a side note, once again Id like to say thank you for all members from AAOF and in Bellazon (BZ) forum who contacted me and supported me or shared with me their experience with these admins or just commented on this. I appreciate it , guys. As much as I would like to call the names of who offered their help and support but Im afraid after I do so admins might just bash them too, nonetheless you know who you are ;) And believe me, I sincerely value your support and miss seeing you in the forum.

Best Regards,
xx.

Yet another update on the situation in Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum

2008-05-06T20:52:00.016+02:00

Hi reader !

An update as of May 6th 2008:

In the previous post I explained as to why I didnt visit AAOF in a week or so. Ive been told by a member today that "members in AAOF would like to see me come back and post there again and apparently they posted that too in the forum and got the answer from admins ' All she has to do is to PM us to get her posting permissions back'."

Emm....Are you even serious? I must hear wrong. For what merry reason should I PM the admins who abuse their privileges and ASK THEM to pls give me my posting permissions( and not only since I dont have permission to edit my profile, signature either) back, permissons that THEY themsleves took away from me for NO REASON AT ALL and now I 'am supposed to beg them to give them back to me' ????????????????????? Pardon me ?

Think kindergarten. 'If we want to play, we will play, if we want to give a member his posting permissons, we kindly will give him, if we feel like banning a member for no reason we gonna ban him'. I dont play such games. And Im not a toy to be plaid any games like that either. UGH. Just to satisfy such 'admins' desire to show off their power this or that way and have final say.Ohhh puh-lease...

There is NO EVEN A SINGLE REASON for ME to even SEND them anything or ask them about anything - I did NOT start anything, its THEM, who started this whole absurd and disrespectful thing and its THEM who just should give me all my 'member permissions' back ASAP. ASAP. Without even daring to ask me to do anything. Just switch them on and thats all.

Of course, ideally, apologizing for all that absurd circus and inapropriate behaviour that they prove each time in their PMs to me, comments here and their actions not only towards me and my posts but towards other members who try to speak up as well.

Its 'amazing' how badly they need to satisfy their need to show how much power they have in the forum. Because they did all they could to get my personal reaction on their absurdness but they failed. This 'terrible person' didnt even PM them, didnt talk to them, just in her blog.No, we want to break her 'Im not gonna PM them as I dont even have to since in their PMs they show pretty darn good that such PMs dont even have to be asnwered to', we want to make her play our coward games too.Whatever, dudes.

If the apology I 'HEARD they made in the forum' was sincere they would have given me ALL my permissions back with that. Which is NOT the case for now.

And banning me from posting, editing my signature, adding comments in my profile BUT just leaving me PM to 'make me contact them and come say oh pls, give me my permissions back' - you can take the PM option too from me, if you want, because if you want for me to come to you on my knees for nothing youll have to wait a damn long time.

I think THIS alone says clear enough what kind of admins manage this forum.

Im not gonna visit/post there until ALL my permissions are back.

Oh yes and I talk only here in my blog. Without being stalked, getting orders whatI 'should do', treated rudely and disrepectful and so on. Just so you remember.

Regards,

xx.

ps. Just think yourself, people, if these two admins would have had a 'clear conscience' and would have been 'innocent' then they wouldnt have been avoiding public discussion of all that in forum. But they do as we see.Because it will put them in 'not so good light' in front of all members.So what they do? They 'copy my original thread and had to create a duscussion of 'forum issues'thread' BUT ban me from posting there. Ok, so I take it, they gonna discuss it with themselves eh?...Its like okay, here we are giving you a chance to speak but wait, we shut up your mouth first. Ummm...what gives? 'Very clever. Very logical. Very intelligent'.

I think 'this case' is almost hopeless and these two admins are COMPLETELY unable to do admins job. Thats all.

ps1. I had an ex-member of AAOF contact me today in other forum where that member shared the same 'experience' he had with these exact admins too and was banned for no reason by them, was treated rudely and disrespectfully and how it all was 'pooof', deleted by admins and 'they were pure and innocent again' for all who 'doesnt know' the real state of things. So here is an extract from that message and more on what other members said to me after reading my blog - names not shown to keep the privacy:

Update on the situation in Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum

2008-05-05T13:55:00.015+02:00

Hi guys and girls.

First off, thanks for reading. The more people know the better. Tell everyone about that and may be then it can be changed for smth good.

Heres an update on the described in the previous post situation.

I was off forums for a week or so and didnt check on whats been going on there. Firstly,because Im a real person with real life too that must be taken care of and second I just needed a breath of fresh air after having to deal with such ***.

Today I logged in Ales forum to update my avatar and signature to Marisa's pictures to continue posting and promoting my fave model because I know how much she appreciates that and she told me that through her representative which is very kind of her and I dont want her to think I dont care about my MM thread in Ales forum or about Marisas official forum. I do. But as long as there are such admins Im not able to support her there.

So, in over a week now, I still :

1. Dont have persmission to post (!), change my signature(!), add comments in my own and others profiles (!).

Here are the fresh screencaps I took in Ales forum after I tried to post there and to change my signature, with time and date:

2. A bunch of members sent me PMs during that time I was off forum and some already read this blog, some were asking me to come back, some were just sharing their 'negative experience with the named admins'.

I hope you can forgive me for sharing your messages with all here, guys and girls, in good purposes, I wont tell the names of course to keep your privacy, and I know you support me and hopefully you dont mind me to quote a couple of your messages again.

So, in a nutshell: admins 'cut me off from posting, changing my signature, starting new threads, commenting on my own profile and others' for no reason abusing their admins power and acting very immature to put it mildly BUT left me only the possibility to use PM in Ales forum - to 'make me talk to them via PM' there.

Im sorry but Im not gonna talk to them via PM at all no matter what else they ban me from doing in the forums ( AAOF, FMT). I will only talk in public like this in my blog. After someone put a knife into your back - do you want to talk to anyone after that at all????????? Honestly, I dont and its understandable.

As far as Im ' not permited to post' in the forum - for what purpose did admins' create a 'discuss forum issues' thread now ????????????? What gives ? Are they gonna talk to themselves there since I can not post there? Doesnt sound logic does it. Each time they contradict themselves and I dont even have to answer because no matter how they 'try to come off as nice and caring now' and post stuffs but by their actions and in their posts they show themselves their 'real face' and what kind of persons /admins they are.

Isnt it 'funny' how 'with my help' so to speak the 'thread for forum issues discussion' was created in AAOF and how I still 'dont have posting permissions'?

And tell me pls, what does ' an apology' worth if after 'apologizing '( see comments) you still ban me from posting and not only ???

Either way, Alessandra and Marisa will be informed very shortly about all that. With all the printed out proves of course including time and dates.

Im sorry, MARISA and Ale, that I am not longer able to support you like I did, but I hope you understand why and once the right measures have been taken and I am able to use ALL of my member permissions again I will gladly come back to the forums for you. But for now, thats how it is.

Regards,
xx.

ps. I want to thank admin ( PinkCouture,RoninGrave and others) in Bellazon and (Sergio) in Ryoni forum for letting me have my blog link in my signature and not deleting it as some others do. And I wanted to say thank you to admin in AdrianaFlima boards(bahianchic). Good to see that there exist other admins who can actually act mature, fair and respectful. I wish you guys were admins in AAOF and FMT as well.

ps1. And this is only AAOF. Im not even checking FMT these days since they are admins there as well, who knows, may be I 'dont have permissons' to post/change siggi/etc. there too now...

ps2. And hey, thanks for all COMMENTS to my previous post.

How admins really act in official forum of a famous model

2008-04-27T21:22:00.036+02:00

Hello, reader !

My first post which in fact I was MADE to do and if you read on you will know why.I promise to be as brief as I can but touch all urgent topics nonetheless.Oh and I thank you for taking time and reading it - I appreciate that a lot because this is why I do it - to be heard.

--->>>IMPORTANT:

Point by Point:

* Violation of basic human rights and not keeping whithin the law, that is within the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution ( Freedom of speech, press, religion ,petition and assembley. )

* Privacy invasion.

* Blackening member's ( a person's) reputation without any reason for that.

* Abusing given to them 'admin priviliges and power' for above actions.

* Continuous bashing and stalking a member for no reason on purpose.

* As well as: Lying to members in aims of justification of the above actions, Maintaining unhealthy forum atmosphere, Being disrespectful to members of Alessandra Ambrosio and Marisa Miller's OFFICIAL forums - therefore being disrespectful towards their fans that is being disrespectful towards these Models as well, Not following the Rules of the Forum.

April 28,2008 UPDATE:

Im literally 'being shut up' by admins- they delete my posts, ban from posting comments in my or other members profiles, track my Private Messages Incoming and Outcoming mail and delete my PM before they reach the ones whom I send them. Basically, breaking the law and VIOLATING HUMAN RIGHTS.

This is the newest screencaps from today I have just took when trying to let members know this address:

So basically thats like shutting someones mouth up and then 'make and impression of trying to talk to him'.

And now some more light on the above stated facts:

I have been a member ( as said by others a good honest and valuebale active member) in Alessandra Ambrosio Official Forum since october 2006 ( Alessandra is my second favorite model ) where after the forum was hacked I invested tons of my private time to help to rebuild the forum basically from the empty place along with other members. I was lucky and happy to start the thread there on my fave model - Marisa Miller. Which I proudly call ' my thread' or now 'our thread' because with all the wonderful members who post there as well we make it the thread that is most viewable and popular in subform 'fashion and models' of Ales forum.

Alessandra and Marisa are both Victoria's Secret Supermodels.

1.After I reposted a bunch of photos posted by one of the admins of this forum (known as 'Lullaby' or Ashley, from here L.) that she posted at another forum
(fashionmodeltalk) where she also is admin, with giving credits of course as I always do in such cases. Yet another admin of Ales forum ( 'Avadakedavra' also known as Meghan, from here- A.)as well as FMT forum named above posts in MM( Marisa Miller) thread and says, I quote by memory ' Not sounding rude or pushy but why dont you just give the link to FMT forum so that everyone go there and check photos themselves instead of reposting all that Lullaby posted here?'. Well, guys and girls, I replied to her in a polite manner as I always do that I do not repost just all of them to start with but pick the ones I think show MM in better light and that I really like best, second, I know there are members who will not go register to another forum and want to see new stuffs here and appreciate my postings and third, hey thats why this thread was created in this forum anyway, right'. Members posted too after that and supported me saying they prefer to see my posts in Ales forum in MM thread and that they agree with me. I was off forum for a night and next day I was informed by one member how another admin L. posted in MM thread and said smth that that member was even 'ashamed of' so 'rude and uncalled for' it sounded.

In a short while after that this post by A. as well as my reply to her plus all members' posts and L.'s posts , all was gone. Apparently they were just deleted by admins.Which I thought was good for the thread actually and I was just ready to move on. I checked a few latest pages to see if only these posts were deleted and noticed how admins edited a bunch of my very recent posts with photos (hosted on imageshadow) and put them in the width motivating it by posting in length which I did 'distorted the board'. I posted a reply to a member in MM thread and added that how I noticed that my posts were edited even though: a) I read all the rules and never saw anything stating that photos posted like that should be only in width , b) I always posted in length and noone bothered before, and c)I said that in my opinion it was more convinient for me to have them in length. A member agreed with me that he liked it much better 'my way' too .

Right after that admins closed the thread. I got a bunch of PMs from
members asking me why MM thread was all of a sudden closed. HERE finally I can tell PEOPLE the TRUTH without - >being banned, being abused, being bashed, being stalked - all that found place in Ales forum and thats why I HAD to make this post at a different place.

Admins wanted to show 'whos is the boss in the club and who has power' by closing the thread when it was absolutely NO reason for doing so. Officially they put it though as you can see in this picture, a screencap I took:

Its pretty clear that they had to make up a fake story to 'justify' their absurd actions.For all those members who dont post there and dont know whats up.

2. After the thread was closed I got a PM from admin L. , please check this
screencapture I made of it ( and yes, I post it for all to read since as youll know from it admins also read all my private messages which turn out to be not so private as they should be):

I did not contact them in any way before that and that could have caused such a PM, so it was quite shocking to get smth like that from an admin who youd think should be an example to others in things tolerance and respect. I did not reply to her because honestly, there is nothing to say - she said it all herself. How she disrespects me, that is in my face ALL members - read fans of Alessandra (and Marisa) , that is disrespecting such great models as Ale and Marisa too.
Instead of taking better care of reposts and offtopic convos in Ales photo forum ( tons of those take place there, especially reposts and one word posts), admins targeted MM thread which I actually keep clean and nice myself and with the help of all great guys and girls that post there. NOTHING from what admins named as reasons for closing the thread and cutting off 6 pages took place there in reality - with the only exception when a member called MM bad names which I saw fast and reported and it was deleted asap same day.

And saying that I am 'nasty and mean towards other members' (said by admins) doesnt go really well and logically with what members themselves say to me in this thread and not only there ( 'Because of you, Julia, I think I am addicted to MM now', 'Thank you so much, Julia', 'You are my official MM poster here, Julia, no matter what', 'its beckstar who brainwashed me with all her hot Marisa avatars and signatures', ' I blame you for MM addiction now', ' Because of you I now like Marisa', etc.)

3. When I started a PUBLIC discussion thread in Ales forum ('Forum Improvement Ideas and Comments to keep Ales forum on a nice and friendly level') - not telling any names yet and being respectulf and polite as much as I can, just saying there are some issues that must be discussed in public and after 6 members posted there too in this thread and supported my idea of such a great thread - of course!- admins delete it. I created it again and it was deleted within a minute yet again. And I get yet another PM from A. this time - check this screencap:

As far as she says' such thread is already there or, if its not the 'right place' to post such thread then'...hmmm hey, why not just TAKE MY THREAD WHERE IT BELONGS then ???? Come on, by just deleting it YOU, guys, prove that you do not have a clear conscious if you AVOID public discussion of that and others issues ( a few members told me in PM they are NOT satisfired and unhappy with admins work and that its not 1st time admins act disrespectful and rude towards members!). They prefer to act COWARDLY by hiding their true faces in PMing ME all the time continually. Which I will never reply to. Because I dont have anything to hide from people and I will discuss it only in public, only with all members included.Which they cowardly avoid at all costs - by banning me from starting my own threads, for instance.

4. Members in Ales forum have FEAR to speak up, they have fear to be banned or abused by admins. PEOPLE, whom do you fear??????? Two admins who act
immature, grotty, petty, totally shallow, low and rude ? We are all humans with
EQUAL rights and each of us has a right to speak up, a freedom of speech. Come on, its 21st century after all.

----->>>Important !!!! --> The 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution reads: "Freedom of religion, SPEECH, press, petition..." !!!

5. I tried to contact a couple of these models' representatives in the hopes to draw their attention to that rotten atmoshpere that these two admins created in the official form of one (but by doing it once they are capable to repeat it anytime again on other forum where they are admins as well) of their models.
Neither Alessandra nor Marisa ( who are KNOWN for being CARING about their fans - probably the only models hat truly care about their fans thats why so many people like them including me) deserve an official forum being run by such admins who are just plain uncapable of managing such a forum that they show again and again with every step they take now. Such admins should be disqualified. For good. But before that they should make a profound apology for me ( I didnt even tell ALL details here but I have more to it) for how they 'passivley agressivley bashed me' obusing their 'admin priviliges'.

6. Here are just a few other forum members' opinions on that issue and more that I screencapped and put together. For privacy reasons I dont call their names :

7. I noticed a while ago how 'often' A. posts these two days in the forum :) There ya go, trying to come off as 'nice and caring' which is first - wont fool members because they are in fact more clever then these two admins think and call them - and second, you only prove that you did very wrong and hurtful towards member for NO REASON AT ALL. Im NOT going to post in any 'forum discussion' thread created by YOU now after I already created such A FEW TIMES and they were DELETED without reason and hesitation from your side.It just went too far, sorry. And how can I post there at all if YOU BAN ME FROM DOING SO to show off your 'grottyness'? This is ***. To put it mildly.

8. They establish rules in the forum that read ' bashing is not allowed at all....pls stay respectful at all times!' - and they act just in the opposite way! How can they expect members to respect THEM after they are being disrespectful to members??????
And no, you dont have to be jealouse or envious of the fact that 'a no special
snowflake' as L. called me ' has many little internet friendships that wont last past internet' - and still they are envious that people value me and like to talk to me there and appreciate me and I have good friends there.

How about this : treat people the way YOU want to be treated ?

I had members PM me and ask me for help too - hmm , apparently someone is more approachable and nice then admins if they picked me to contact and not them. I admit once I almost had a fear for them too and even hesitated to click and report smth because I was scared to bother them - they do come off being mean and rude to members and believe me I would be glad If I was wrong but this all proves me right).

By having account at getty images or wireimages and posting tons of rare shots and by converting videos YOU, admins , you may impress those members who dont know your other side - and in fact you were thanked by everyone for that many many times including me who even helped you, Lullaby, with transaltion once( but good things are so quickly forgot of course). It doesnt allow you though behind the backs of those who thank you insult other members and those who thanked you too. Who would have thought such 'nice admins as these too, Lullaby and Avadakedavra' have another side which is not that nice at all ! I can imagine how people who were not aware of this might be shocked now - well, believe me I felt the same.

I documented everything and have members who can confirm and add to that anytime if needed and if it helps to change this whole thing and make the forum nice and friendly again with OTHER admins who RESPECT their members. Because the true power is not in your hands, admins, yes, you can ban me, you can obuse your powers but the true power have PEOPLE. Not you. It is MEMBERS who keep this forum active and pleasant - if we all leave, how will you two be able to even be nice to each other after what me and other members saw in actions you took and take there ?

In a word, its truly sad and it will be disappointing if it stays this way. I hope I will be heard and members can breathe freely and enjoy the forum of a great model whose fans they are and I am. No model would want her official forum to have a bad reputation just because of how admins act there.

Make conclusions and take measures.Noone makes it for you, members.
Thats all I wanted to say for now.Thank you for reading.

~~~

Any Comments -especially from the members of this forum- are welcome if posted in respectful and polite manner only. Have the courage to state your name ;)

Yours truly,

xx.

PS. And no, I do not aim to become admin , all members of this forum want is just to have mature admins who can act respectful at ALL times and are capable of managing an official forum in a nice and friendly way. Thats all.

And there is no guarantee for us, members who care of Ale, Marisa and their forums, that by doing such rude things once these admins wont repeat it again anytime....

------>IMPORTANT NOTE:

By posting this I am trying to be heard and hoping that appropriate measures as severe as the issue(s) is(are) will be taken.The posted is just a a few examples on how the named above admins manage this forum in reality, behind 'making a good impression to those who are not aware of that' - there is more to that, for instance, holding the unfair banner contests as was the most recent one.

The two named models's reputations shouldnt suffer because of such admins, because these two models are among the bestest ever if not the bestest and I like them both a whole whole lot ( otherwise I wouldnt have bothered to put my time into all that) and I will gladly stay as active member as I can due to my real life schedule in both of their forums. Hopefully, in better ones...

A few model/fashion forums' *behind the scenes*.